I POD

[cyhiphopp]

Got myself an IPOD finally . What are good music sharing sites to download music . I tunes not cheap . Paid for 50 songs . trying to go cheap . Any help very appreciated .

First of all, why did you get an Ipod?

I personally have a Sansa MP3 player which I like a lot. It has a Micro SD slot and I recently got an 8 GB Micro SD card cheap so I more than doubles my capacity. I have 12 GB (not a lot, but enough for me) of capacity for a lot less than an 8GB Ipod Nano.

I guess if I really wanted a green MP3 player I should have gotten an Ipod.


Now, about ripping songs from Library borrowed CDs.

Is there a specific law that covers ripping songs from library CDs?

While this is not the most honorable thing to do, it is also not as bad as dowloading from a torrent.
First, I am paying taxes so that the Library can buy these CDs for my use. So, by ripping the songs and putting them on my MP3 player it is basically like I am borrowing the CD from the library again.

Honestly, I just don't feel it is worth it to buy a $16 CD (that costs pennies to make) if there are maybe 2 or 3 songs at most that I will actually like on the CD. I have purchased single songs from internet sources, and I usually buy CDs from my favorite bands.

If the music industry would lower costs to about $5-$10 a CD, I would probably buy a lot more CDs. I think the record companies would still make some profit and still be able to pay the artists.

[Cybyassociation]

Is there a specific law that covers ripping songs from library CDs?

While this is not the most honorable thing to do, it is also not as bad as dowloading from a torrent.
First, I am paying taxes so that the Library can buy these CDs for my use. So, by ripping the songs and putting them on my MP3 player it is basically like I am borrowing the CD from the library again.

It would pretty much be the same as renting a DVD and ripping it. Just because I paid the $5 to rent it, that doesnt mean I own it. So essentially, it is stealing. You dont own the cd, so you cant own the songs on it.

So while it is not the same thing as a torrent, it is just as illegal.

[agcy68]

I'm a bit confused. The correct answer is not supply and demand. That would be like saying that there is more of a demand for music than there is a supply...which is not true. Music is not a product that can be completely used up. If it were that a certain song is only available for the first 5,000 downloaders, then I could understand. However, that is not the case.

Maybe its a bit early and your reading abilities are still waking up. I'm all for charging for music. However, prises have risen 30% in the last year and there is absolutely no shortage in music. Using your example it would be like this:

You want that new Ford Edge. Last year it cost $20,000 (just making up a number). Due to the tanking economy, Ford needs to make up for lost profits. This year, they have decided to charge $26,000 for the same exact product.

That is how it is hurting the consumer. People's wallets are shrinking and now is not the time to make an extra dime...or three, off of customers.

So by logic, if you cant afford it, dont buy it right? Well, that leads to piracy. More affordable music will lead to less piracy. Unfortunately, Apple is heading in the wrong direction. Their product is NOT music, it is convenience. Their pricing is NOT convenient to consumers who are recovering financially.

Artists, in this conversation, create their music to make money. They will only supply songs if there is money to be made. If there is no money to be made, the supply of music will go down. They created these songs with that in mind - and have charged appropriately.

[Cybyassociation]

Artists, in this conversation, create their music to make money. They will only supply songs if there is money to be made. If there is no money to be made, the supply of music will go down. They created these songs with that in mind - and have charged appropriately.

Artists dont get paid per song...they get paid by contract. Unless youre a big name performer like Michael Jackson, Brittney Spears, Miley, Jay-Z etc, your money is made from the contract, not from sales. To pay for their contracts, lables send them out on tour. Contracts also say how many albums they need to release, sometimes limiting or giving a minimum number of songs that need to be released also. Most artists/bands dont sit around scratching their heads thinking..."I could use some more money. Think I may put out a cd."...Unless were talking Cher.

While some songs sound like theyre only releasing them to make a pretty penny, artists do not set the prices...except for the ones releasing songs independently. People can sit here and rabble rabble rabble all they want about how the industry is charging an appropriate price, but when you have big name artists speaking out about pricing and taking matters into their own hands, you know something is up.

[agcy68]

Artists dont get paid per song...they get paid by contract. Unless youre a big name performer like Michael Jackson, Brittney Spears, Miley, Jay-Z etc, your money is made from the contract, not from sales. To pay for their contracts, lables send them out on tour. Contracts also say how many albums they need to release, sometimes limiting or giving a minimum number of songs that need to be released also. Most artists/bands dont sit around scratching their heads thinking..."I could use some more money. Think I may put out a cd."...Unless were talking Cher.

While some songs sound like theyre only releasing them to make a pretty penny, artists do not set the prices...except for the ones releasing songs independently. People can sit here and rabble rabble rabble all they want about how the industry is charging an appropriate price, but when you have big name artists speaking out about pricing and taking matters into their own hands, you know something is up.

Ah, but they created the music TO MAKE MONEY which they, or their label, does by selling the end product. If there is no chance to make money, they wouldn't produce any music.

[Tarbox]

Artists, in this conversation, create their music to make money. They will only supply songs if there is money to be made. If there is no money to be made, the supply of music will go down. They created these songs with that in mind - and have charged appropriately.

This is pretty far from the truth. Also, new thread.

[agcy68]

Ah, but they created the music TO MAKE MONEY which they, or their label, does by selling the end product. If there is no chance to make money, they wouldn't produce any music.

This is pretty far from the truth. Also, new thread.

How many rock stars would exist if there wasn't the potential for a large payout for a successful song? Thousands of people try out for American Idol with the hope of landing a large contract i.e. getting paid.

[marothisu]

I did the recording artist thing for awhile...you don't really make that much money from record sales. Most of your money is made from touring...tickets to those events and ESPECIALLY merchandise. That's a huge money maker.

Sure, you make some money off of albums, but compared to other ****...ha. I think the average is made 8 to 10 cents for every dollar...that's what goes to you as the artist.

So sure, if you sell 1 million records at $12/record..that's about $960,000...if you're in a band, hm split it up, and you know. Merchandise/touring is where it's at and you can make money off of albums, but not as much.

[marothisu]

Also, it depends on the artist for why they create the music. A lot on contract are pressured to put out albums because the record companies want to make money, but many of these guys do it because they actually love music.