LOST: Ab Aeterno

**mapnerd** · 03-23-2010, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

Ever since my friend moved to Hawaii, he has been a tropical recluse. I don't think he would have access to any inside info, or he probably would have said something. Probably something overheard. Maybe it is nothing.

I don't see it as a spoiler, for there is zero conformation on what the hell he is talking about. In my view, it just adds to the conversation.

Okay, gotcha. It is intriguing, because I think that's exactly what the island might be. I can't wait until the end, but it's going to be bittersweet.

Tropical recluse, eh? Where do I apply?

**clonomaniac** · 03-23-2010, 02:35 PM

bump this

**CycloneYoda** · 03-23-2010, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by mapnerd

Okay, gotcha. It is intriguing, because I think that's exactly what the island might be. I can't wait until the end, but it's going to be bittersweet.

Tropical recluse, eh? Where do I apply?

Lots of factors.

1. Don't get student loans. Get a job, and for other income, grow and sell "plants" to subsidize the cost of school

2. Buy land at 18 and hope for a bypass on that land. $$$$$$$$$$

3. Marry a wife who is crazy career driven and doesn't spend a lot on shoes. (She has calmed down now that she lives in Hawaii)

The dude worked hard, got away with a little "plant" selling, and got lucky.

Now he is going to sail to Tahiti on his own boat soon.

As for LOST, I never thought of the island as a cork to an evil underworld until today.

**isucy1234** · 03-23-2010, 03:46 PM

So if the island is a cork, I would assume it's holding in one of the two: MIB, or the electromagnetism. Thoughts on which one it might possibly be?

**CloneIce** · 03-23-2010, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

Lots of factors.

1. Don't get student loans. Get a job, and for other income, grow and sell "plants" to subsidize the cost of school

2. Buy land at 18 and hope for a bypass on that land. $$$$$$$$$$

3. Marry a wife who is crazy career driven and doesn't spend a lot on shoes. (She has calmed down now that she lives in Hawaii)

The dude worked hard, got away with a little "plant" selling, and got lucky.

Now he is going to sail to Tahiti on his own boat soon.

As for LOST, I never thought of the island as a cork to an evil underworld until today.

Awesome, I'm jealous.

The "cork" implies it is stopping something, holding something back.... probably something to do with the reason why MIB wants off the Island and why Jacob worked so hard to keep him there. Gonna be a great last few episodes.

**marothisu** · 03-23-2010, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by clonomaniac

What do people think? I think it will be the best episode by far.

I can't ******* WAIT for this episode. Seriously, I think Richard is older than The Black Rock. For one, the title is in Latin. Secondly when Ilana asked for Richard she referred to him as Ricardus which is Latin (or old spanish). This will be amazing...Roman times when it was Roman Egyptian rule around 30 BCE

**CycloneYoda** · 03-23-2010, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by CloneIce

Awesome, I'm jealous.

The "cork" implies it is stopping something, holding something back.... probably something to do with the reason why MIB wants off the Island and why Jacob worked so hard to keep him there. Gonna be a great last few episodes.

Going out to visit next January.

Yep, LOST is awesome. When it is over, I will be, well, lost.

**CycloneYoda** · 03-23-2010, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by marothisu

I can't ******* WAIT for this episode. Seriously, I think Richard is older than The Black Rock. For one, the title is in Latin. Secondly when Ilana asked for Richard she referred to him as Ricardus which is Latin (or old spanish). This will be amazing...Roman times when it was Roman Egyptian rule around 30 BCE

It has pretty much been established that he was on the boat. However, that doesn't mean he didn't leave the island, only to return on the Black Rock.

Guess we should know pretty soon.

**marothisu** · 03-23-2010, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by GopherClone

He already said he was a slave on the ship in his conversation with Jack before he asked Jack to blow him up.

I don't think he actually said that. He said how he had been inside the black rock before, but that means nothing. Hurley has been inside the black rock before in season 1 or 2. If in 50 years he told another person "yeah I've been here" that doesn't mean he was actually from the ship.

**marothisu** · 03-23-2010, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

It has pretty much been established that he was on the boat. However, that doesn't mean he didn't leave the island, only to return on the Black Rock.

Guess we should know pretty soon.

He said he had been there before, but that doesn't mean he actually came from it. There's a lot of allusions to it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was "from" the ship and I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't "from" the ship. We're led to believe a few things that he could be from the slave ship, but at the same time Illana refers to him as Ricardus (latin), the name of this episode is in Latin, and there's a bunch of random egyptian things on the island...which again around 30 BCE began a joint Roman-Egyptian rule of both kingdoms.

IMO, Richard did not arrive on the island on the black rock. I believe MIB enslaved him on the ship for some time using the chains i.e. a prison.

**CycloneYoda** · 03-23-2010, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by marothisu

I don't think he actually said that. He said how he had been inside the black rock before, but that means nothing. Hurley has been inside the black rock before in season 1 or 2. If in 50 years he told another person "yeah I've been here" that doesn't mean he was actually from the ship.

Flocke said to Richard "Glad to see you out of those chains, Richard" before he kicked the hell out of him and dragged him to the jungle. Last week, Richard was staring at those chains.

**marothisu** · 03-23-2010, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

Flocke said to Richard "Glad to see you out of those chains, Richard" before he kicked the hell out of him and dragged him to the jungle. Last week, Richard was staring at those chains.

I'm aware of that, but that doesn't mean he came to the island on the ship. MIB could have used the ship as a "prison" and chained Alpert up in it.

Again, if in 50 years Hurley was on the island, a new batch of Losties came and he said "yeah i've been here before"..it doesn't mean he actually arrived on the ship.

**Wesley** · 03-23-2010, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

Got an e-mail today from my best friend who lives in Honolulu.

All the e-mail said was this: LOST- Think of the island as a cork.

Anybody have any idea what he means? I hate cryptic messages.

It has been floating around in the ocean?

**CycloneYoda** · 03-23-2010, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by marothisu

I'm aware of that, but that doesn't mean he came to the island on the ship. MIB could have used the ship as a "prison" and chained Alpert up in it.

Again, if in 50 years Hurley was on the island, a new batch of Losties came and he said "yeah i've been here before"..it doesn't mean he actually arrived on the ship.

I understand what you are saying, but all the signs point to Richard deeply connected to the Black Rock. He was indeed making a replica of it in a bottle.

You may be right. Maybe he didn't arrive on the ship. Maybe he was always there. We will find out soon enough.