Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

**el tornado** · 07-12-2010, 11:22 PM

Try turning right on red with these ***** cameras. Instant ticket

**alarson** · 07-12-2010, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by clone52

I feel so sorry for you.

Why? Why does the city government deserve another way to grab more of our money, simply because they've not managed it well to begin with.

**CycloneYoda** · 07-12-2010, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

Why? Why does the city government deserve another way to grab more of our money, simply because they've not managed it well to begin with.

Brother, maybe it is time for you to move. Sounds like the stress of these cameras might send you over the edge.

**cstrunk** · 07-12-2010, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by terryk

Nope i drive 59, don't speed don't worry

Isn't the speed limit 55? 59 is breaking the law.

**alarson** · 07-12-2010, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

Brother, maybe it is time for you to move. Sounds like the stress of these cameras might send you over the edge.

Because i'm against these i'm somehow near 'over the edge?' got it. Anyone against government further intruding into our daily lives is somehow an unstable person ready to explode.

**cstrunk** · 07-12-2010, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

Brother, maybe it is time for you to move. Sounds like the stress of these cameras might send you over the edge.

I hear there's a smaller town north of Des Moines by about... 30 miles or so that got was recently ranked pretty highly for best places to live.

**clone52** · 07-12-2010, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

Why? Why does the city government deserve another way to grab more of our money, simply because they've not managed it well to begin with.

If your side of the story didn't involve breaking the law, I'd have a little more sympathy for you.

**CycloneYoda** · 07-12-2010, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

Because i'm against these i'm somehow near 'over the edge?' got it. Anyone against government further intruding into our daily lives is somehow an unstable person ready to explode.

No, not because you are against them. But you plan on complaining about it until the 1st of Forever.

Again, in the long run, you will be OK.

In the grand scheme of things, you are a speck of dust. These cameras are even more meaningless.

Go with the big picture.

I'm drinking, and I suggest you start now.

**cstrunk** · 07-12-2010, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

No, not because you are against them. But you plan on complaining about it until the 1st of Forever.

Again, in the long run, you will be OK.

In the grand scheme of things, you are a speck of dust. These cameras are even more meaningless.

Go with the big picture.

I'm drinking, and I suggest you start now.

**LindenCy** · 07-12-2010, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by clone52

If your side of the story didn't involve breaking the law, I'd have a little more sympathy for you.

The problem I have with cameras is there isn't room for extenuating circumstances, especially on the red light ones. What if the sign was obscured (when making a turn on red)? It was rainy? etc. Pretty much: we got you on tape, now give us our money. The fact that it isn't something for your record but just a fine enforces that thought.

**tube1** · 07-12-2010, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by cstrunk

Do you drive 55 mph on 235?

Not always. But if I get caught, I can only blame myself as I know what the posted speed limits are. I won't complain on here.

**alarson** · 07-12-2010, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by clone52

If your side of the story didn't involve breaking the law, I'd have a little more sympathy for you.

My side of the story is that the 'law' is set way too low, and theres very much a conflict of interest with the local government that sets the limits also being the one that reaps the benefits of having that limit set too low.

**tube1** · 07-12-2010, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by LindenCy

The problem I have with cameras is there isn't room for extenuating circumstances, especially on the red light ones. What if the sign was obscured? It was rainy? etc. Pretty much: we got you on tape, now give us our money. The fact that it isn't something for your record but just a fine enforces that thought.

If a camera is not at a red light intersection, then it is OK to run through a red? If you are worried, brake when you see a yellow instead of speeding up. It really is not that difficult of a concept. Laws are set - whether you feel they are fair or not (not directed at you with that last statement Linden - just for all of the folks that think speed limits are too low or whatever). It is our duty to follow these laws or be subject to fine.

I think 20oz Cokes are overpriced at 1.50 in convenience stores. If I pay the store 1.25 and walk out, I'll be stopped and catch grief over it. I think the price is too high, but 1.50 is the posted price. Similar concept.

**alarson** · 07-12-2010, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

No, not because you are against them. But you plan on complaining about it until the 1st of Forever.

Again, in the long run, you will be OK.

In the grand scheme of things, you are a speck of dust. These cameras are even more meaningless.

Go with the big picture.

I'm drinking, and I suggest you start now.

65-80 bucks a time is hardly meaningless. Im sorry that you are 'above' the rest of us on this board. In the 'grand scheme' a lot of things are meaningless. Just about everything talked about on this board is meaningless in that context. But you choose to come in here and say 'your view is meaningless in the grand scheme'.

**LindenCy** · 07-12-2010, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by tube1

If a camera is not at a red light intersection, then it is OK to run through a red? If you are worried, brake when you see a yellow instead of speeding up. It really is not that difficult of a concept. Laws are set - whether you feel they are fair or not (not directed at you with that last statement Linden - just for all of the folks that think speed limits are too low or whatever). It is our duty to follow these laws or be subject to fine.

I think 20oz Cokes are overpriced at 1.50 in convenience stores. If I pay the store 1.25 and walk out, I'll be stopped and catch grief over it. I think the price is too high, but 1.50 is the posted price. Similar concept.

But when they change the yellow shorter and you don't have time to brake, that is a money maker and a danger to the city. I do hope that less people run reds because of the cameras, and no one should be running them to begin with, but I feel a lot of this is just about money.

I think one of the major issues I have is the shortening of yellow lights to "catch" more people. I am all for more safety. I drive in Chicago; I see a lot of bad driving.