2024 Transfer Portal Tracker (Wrestling)

[Matrat]

Ohio State definitely developed Echemendia into being a 3rd string wrestler. Our staff definitely didn’t develop him at all into being an All American this year. All the credit to Arizona high school coaches and Tom Ryan for his season. Respectfully, of course

Lol, his high school coach is one of his current coaches. Yeah, Tom Ryan can’t coach. Takes a special coach to tell you to take neutral.
AE was behind D’Emilio at 141 and Sasso at 149 his first year. Not too shabby. Didn’t finish out his second year. Left in November. Calling him third string is not a fair assessment.
It is delusional to think that AE and YB were far off of being All Americans before coming here. They were both world class.
Stupid homerism and sour grapes for others that have more.

 

[ST8TAILG8R]

Lol, his high school coach is one of his current coaches. Yeah, Tom Ryan can’t coach. Takes a special coach to tell you to take neutral.
It is delusional to think that AE and YB were far off of being All Americans before coming here. They were both world class.
Stupid homerism and sour grapes for others that have more.

... and every world class class wrestler will tell you folkstyle is a completely different beast. YB couldn't get out from under a rug or ride a 3rd grader when he arrived. Looking back on his first year and the line up, he's come a long way. YB was a world class freestyler and nowhere near the podium when he arrived... both can be true.

 

[4theheckofit]

... and every world class class wrestler will tell you folkstyle is a completely different beast. YB couldn't get out from under a rug or ride a 3rd grader when he arrived. Looking back on his first year and the line up, he's come a long way. YB was a world class freestyler and nowhere near the podium when he arrived... both can be true.

i agree with you...but his first season is the only year he's made the podium here...

 

[jkbuff98]

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i agree with you...but his first season is the only year he's made the podium here...

2nd season

 

[Matrat]

... and every world class class wrestler will tell you folkstyle is a completely different beast. YB couldn't get out from under a rug or ride a 3rd grader when he arrived. Looking back on his first year and the line up, he's come a long way. YB was a world class freestyler and nowhere near the podium when he arrived... both can be true.

Can’t have it both ways. Everyone in here was saying Reineri Ortega was the best 125 pounder in the nation last year.
The whole nation was salivating over AE after Fargo. Everyone knew he was good. Bastida beat Kyven Gadsen before he was even in the US. Doesn’t matter it’s freestyle, he was elite on his feet which is a huge part of folk style.
Looks like YB was on the podium his second year, so pretty close. Plus not at his best weight. He chose neutral.

 

[CyCloneRastlinG]

Yes. Pretty sure them getting Fish cements Hamiti at 174.

Hamiti has a RS to burn but I agree

 

[CyCloneRastlinG]

Can’t have it both ways. Everyone in here was saying Reineri Ortega was the best 125 pounder in the nation last year.
The whole nation was salivating over AE after Fargo. Everyone knew he was good. Bastida beat Kyven Gadsen before he was even in the US. Doesn’t matter it’s freestyle, he was elite on his feet which is a huge part of folk style.
Looks like YB was on the podium his second year, so pretty close. Plus not at his best weight. He chose neutral.

I’ll make a simple point to this argument because I think everyone agrees those guys are world class athletes and excellent freestyle wrestlers prior to coming to Ames.

The point is this - none of these guys you’re talking about were proven college wrestlers. That’s what this is all about. Being proven anywhere but at Nationals doesn’t mean jack squat. Michigan is buying proven commodities. BIG difference. Every college gets talented kids from all over coming out of high school, that’s how this thing works. Not everyone can buy returning All Americans to fill every gap in their line up year over year

 

[4theheckofit]

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2nd season

1st season wrestling varsity*

 

[Matrat]

I’ll make a simple point to this argument because I think everyone agrees those guys are world class athletes and excellent freestyle wrestlers prior to coming to Ames.

The point is this - none of these guys you’re talking about were proven college wrestlers. That’s what this is all about. Being proven anywhere but at Nationals doesn’t mean jack squat. Michigan is buying proven commodities. BIG difference. Every college gets talented kids from all over coming out of high school, that’s how this thing works. Not everyone can buy returning All Americans to fill every gap in their line up year over year

That is a fair point. Part of the original argument that was being waged was that Michigan was just plugging guys in and not developing them. All three transfers did better this year than last.
Complaining about teams having more money sounded like sour grapes and irritated me because that’s how Iowa fans are. No one here would complain if Johnny bachelor farmer donates his estate to the Cyclone NIL collective and we buy a new set of guys whenever needed.

 

[jkbuff98]

1st season wrestling varsity*

1st full season but he was here , wrestled 1st team and benefited from coaching and practice .
2020-21
Posted a 4-4 record during his freshman campaign… began the year as the starting 197-pounder… opened the season 3-0 with a win by major decision and a win by fall… posted three total bonus-point wins on the year (two by pin, one by major decision)… third on the team in dual takedowns (23).

 

[4theheckofit]

No

Is he a 6th year guy next year?

 

[jkbuff98]

Is he a 6th year guy next year?

I edited my post

 

[jkbuff98]

Things are going to get heated at some tournament and coaches are going to lose their cool over this stuff eventually. It’s going to explode in person at some point.

Read Tom Ryan and Pyles conversation on Twitter tonight -

 

[Cyowa 14]

Respectfully, the level of folkstyle skills by those two could be developed at any other college program and many high school programs. In the case of AE, they were at least somewhat developed by his Arizona hs, or should have been. The point being we would take what ever high level transferrs we can get also. We took Chittum, too.

This is a very bad take.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

That is a fair point. Part of the original argument that was being waged was that Michigan was just plugging guys in and not developing them. All three transfers did better this year than last.
Complaining about teams having more money sounded like sour grapes and irritated me because that’s how Iowa fans are. No one here would complain if Johnny bachelor farmer donates his estate to the Cyclone NIL collective and we buy a new set of guys whenever needed.

Might be sour grapes, might not be.

Yes everyone here would absolutely take AA’s at weights of need if they wanted to come here. It’s also probably a lot easier to develop guys who have already proven to be AA caliber (your comment to the guys finishing above where they had before, only applies to 2 of the 5 by the way).

I also think if we were plugging transfers in at the same 5 weights as the year before some would question HS recruiting. That’s not a shot at Michigan, but they are showing where their priorities are.

Just my message board opinion.

 

[HGoat1]

Tom Ryan = Tom Cryin’

 

[jkbuff98]

Tom Ryan = Tom Cryin’

I think he made some decent points

 

[CyCity]

I can only assume he's implying Ayala

And Ayala was the one shopping around last offseason, not the coaches reaching out to him.

 

[BCClone]

And Ayala was the one shopping around last offseason, not the coaches reaching out to him.

Was he serious or was he just trying to leverage more money from Iowa's NIL. I could see him doing it this year also.

 

[CyCity]

Was he serious or was he just trying to leverage more money from Iowa's NIL. I could see him doing it this year also.

It was serious. His family was not happy how Iowa handled the Spencer situation and they’re not happy now with how they are handling the Ferrari situation.