Quade named Cubs manager

**CycloneErik** · 10-19-2010, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

What? I'm talking about right now. They have to compete with the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays. Tell me how much of a shot they have to win the division every year?

How much of a shot did the Rays have while they were building, but there they are now each season.

My gut tells me this will end badly for us. When we hire nondescript guys like Quade, we tend not to get real far.

**Clones21** · 10-19-2010, 01:29 PM

Get it done Mike

**CyJack13** · 10-19-2010, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by HFCS

A Cubs fan saying this is completely ridiculous.

33 seasons, 21 in their retractable dome, 5 division pennants, 21 seasons with 80 wins or more and a World Series championship... while playing in the same division as the Yankees.

I'm a Cubs fan, but Toronto is much more of a winning team than the Cubs. Sure a game at Wrigley is more fun for a fan, but I'm guessing players and managers want to win. Toronto has won much more in their 33 years, especially since the dome, than the Cubs.

Just wondering why you threw that in? Also, since the strike in 1994, Toronto has done about as little as any team in the league. Zero playoff appearences, and really even not coming that close in any year.

**Wesley** · 10-19-2010, 01:31 PM

Quade opinion: Playoffs? What Playoffs?

**gocubs2118** · 10-19-2010, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

How much of a shot did the Rays have while they were building, but there they are now each season.

My gut tells me this will end badly for us. When we hire nondescript guys like Quade, we tend not to get real far.

If it ends badly it will be because we don't have enough talent to win, not because Mike Quade is the manager.

**mred** · 10-19-2010, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

For the people that want Torre or Girardi can I ask why? It's not that hard to manage when you have the payroll of the Yankees,

Originally Posted by Knownothing

Girardi is a good manager because he has an enormous pay roll. Notice these guys like Joe Torre and Girardi are not really that great before they get that huge payroll?

Girardi managed for one season (I know, small sample size) prior to the Yankees. He had a Marlins team with a $15 million payroll (not a typo) and had them in the thick of the wild card race late in the season, winning NL manager of the year in the process.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2611327

**CycloneErik** · 10-19-2010, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

If it ends badly it will be because we don't have enough talent to win, not because Mike Quade is the manager.

Which means we'll do this again in two years. Or go on a spending spree. Or both.

So many guys have a good interim run and amount to nothing in the full-time job. A good interim run really means nothing for future success.

I guess this isn't real impressive to me. I'll back him, because he's our guy, but he's underwhelming.

**CyJack13** · 10-19-2010, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by mred

Girardi managed for one season (I know, small sample size) prior to the Yankees. He had a Marlins team with a $15 million payroll (not a typo) and had them in the thick of the wild card race late in the season, winning NL manager of the year in the process.

Marlins fire Girardi, hire Braves coach Gonzalez - MLB - ESPN

I don't think Girardi is a bad manager. I didn't mean for it to come off like that, but I also don't think he's going to be worth what it costs to get him. Unlike football or basketball where a new coach can make a ton of difference, a manager really doesn't have that big of an effect in baseball. I'm confidant that Quade can do just as good of job as Girardi, especially with the team the Cubs are going to be fielding next season.

**dtclones** · 10-19-2010, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

Just wondering why you threw that in? Also, since the strike in 1994, Toronto has done about as little as any team in the league. Zero playoff appearences, and really even not coming that close in any year.

Good stuff. In addition to that, I am willing to bet that, given the option, most up and coming managers would rather be in Chicago with the Cubs where people care about baseball than Toronto with the Blue Jays where people care about hockey.

**CyJack13** · 10-19-2010, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Which means we'll do this again in two years. Or go on a spending spree. Or both.

So many guys have a good interim run and amount to nothing in the full-time job. A good interim run really means nothing for future success.

I guess this isn't real impressive to me. I'll back him, because he's our guy, but he's underwhelming.

You know what means less than a good interim run? Minor league success, and yet people want Sandberg to get the job.

**CYdTracked** · 10-19-2010, 01:42 PM

I like the move. Quade has done his time both in the minors and on the bench in the majors and got a team that was dead under Lou to play more up to their capabilities. Nothing against Ryno but he'd come into a tough situation where you have to win or face an awkward situation of firing one of your own legends. I hope he stays in the organization in some manner if he doesn't find a major league managing job.

**GoCubsGo** · 10-19-2010, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

How much of a shot did the Rays have while they were building, but there they are now each season.

My gut tells me this will end badly for us. When we hire nondescript guys like Quade, we tend not to get real far.

When else have the Cubs hired a "nondescript guy like Quade"? I think that is one of the refreshing parts of the hire -- it's the first time the Cubs have hired in-house in a long time.

**Cyclone1985** · 10-19-2010, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by mred

Girardi managed for one season (I know, small sample size) prior to the Yankees. He had a Marlins team with a $15 million payroll (not a typo) and had them in the thick of the wild card race late in the season, winning NL manager of the year in the process.

Marlins fire Girardi, hire Braves coach Gonzalez - MLB - ESPN

small payroll, but with studs on the team. Lots of young guys, that didnt have the 'big name'. Hanley Ramirez, Dan Uggla, Josh Johnson, Josh Willingham. Seems as though Girardi fell into the position with great guys on board.

Hopefully something similiar happens with Quade. Lots of young guys in place to make an impact -- Castro, Cashner, Colvin just to name a few.

**gocubs2118** · 10-19-2010, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone1985

small payroll, but with studs on the team. Lots of young guys, that didnt have the 'big name'. Hanley Ramirez, Dan Uggla, Josh Johnson, Josh Willingham. Seems as though Girardi fell into the position with great guys on board.

Hopefully something similiar happens with Quade. Lots of young guys in place to make an impact -- Castro, Cashner, Colvin just to name a few.

I'm pretty sure Miguel Cabrera was on that team as well, lots of young talent on his Marlins team.

**ThatllDoCy** · 10-19-2010, 02:24 PM

I like the move. Quade is passionate, knowledgeable and will love the job win or lose. I am a big Lou fan, but it was like torture for him dealing with the media. Quade is a first time Manager in the Big League's that will work his tail off. Doesn't seem to have a huge ego, and knows the players.

Go, Cubs, Go!