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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by RedCyclone I'm very biased here, but any coach that can take a team from 4-12 to 10-6 with an incredibly strong draft class should have won, i.e. Todd Haley. Along with one of the easiest schedules in the league. Remember that.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by Cy4Patriots Along with one of the easiest schedules in the league. Remember that. No doubt. Still is quite an accomplishment after the years of Herm we had to endure.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by RedCyclone No doubt. Still is quite an accomplishment after the years of Herm we had to endure. Agreed, Give Brady props he helped Cassel become what he is today.
Props to Belichick for helping Weis, Romeo, Scott Pioli come to be who they are. 
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by Cy4Patriots Packers are stacked with talent. Yea, I understand that they had injuries, BUT the patriots had key injuries as well along with their best CB being a rookie. Their best 2 TE's were rookies. Their kicker was on IR. Brady was hurt half the season with an undrafted RB with a backup RB that was claimed the 2nd week after the Jets cut him. Their whole D Line was put on IR with their rookie LB on suspension for four games.
The Patriots and BB earned it. McCarthy is loaded with top notch people. Okay, okay they lost a good RB and an average TE doesn't matter they had experience everywhere in every position.
Again I will mention the Patriots got rid of Moss (HOF) and had the best record in the league.
I will make sure that he gets a vote next time. Did you just call Jermichael Finley average? He was leading the team in receiving on a very pass heavy offense before he went down, I think he's a little better than average. And losing Moss was a detriment? Last I checked he was a cancer in the locker room and HOF or not, he was a distraction and not a good teammate.
And you're right, the Packers have more top notch personnel than the Patriots. The Packers had NO running game because Brandon Jackson sucks, they had a fullback starting at RB, and it took a rookie who had been injured since his junior year in college to finally break through in the playoffs to have a decent weapon in the backfield.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by AlleyAddict Did you just call Jermichael Finley average? He was leading the team in receiving on a very pass heavy offense before he went down, I think he's a little better than average. And losing Moss was a detriment? Last I checked he was a cancer in the locker room and HOF or not, he was a distraction and not a good teammate.
And you're right, the Packers have more top notch personnel than the Patriots.  The Packers had NO running game because Brandon Jackson sucks, they had a fullback starting at RB, and it took a rookie who had been injured since his junior year in college to finally break through in the playoffs to have a decent weapon in the backfield. YEAR TEAM G REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2008 GB 14 6 74 12.3 35 1 3 0 0
2009 GB 13 55 676 12.3 62 5 29 1 1
Not that amazing of stats if you ask me.
These are amazing stats
2006 SD 16 71 924 13.0 57 9 49 0 0
2007 SD 16 75 984 13.1 49 9 54 0 0
2008 SD 16 60 704 11.7 34 8 39 1 1
2009 SD 16 79 1157 14.6 56 8 61 1 0
2010 SD 10 50 782 15.6 48 10 42 0 0
Courtesy of Antonio Gates
Moss was a Capitan and a leader in the locker room. Ask yourself this, if you were uncertain of your job, would you hide in the corner or speak up for yourself and all your hard work you've done. The Patriots are cheap, not his fault. Thats a NE problem, not a Moss problem.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by Cy4Patriots YEAR TEAM G REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2008 GB 14 6 74 12.3 35 1 3 0 0
2009 GB 13 55 676 12.3 62 5 29 1 1
Not that amazing of stats if you ask me.
These are amazing stats
2006 SD 16 71 924 13.0 57 9 49 0 0
2007 SD 16 75 984 13.1 49 9 54 0 0
2008 SD 16 60 704 11.7 34 8 39 1 1
2009 SD 16 79 1157 14.6 56 8 61 1 0
2010 SD 10 50 782 15.6 48 10 42 0 0
Courtesy of Antonio Gates
Moss was a Capitan and a leader in the locker room. Ask yourself this, if you were uncertain of your job, would you hide in the corner or speak up for yourself and all your hard work you've done. The Patriots are cheap, not his fault. Thats a NE problem, not a Moss problem. Those are stats from 2 and 3 years ago, not this year, and I don't think it's fair to compare him to a future hall of famer. Nice try though. I'm honestly just ****** that Steve Spagnuolo and Lovie Smith got votes but not McCarthy.
And Moss has every right to express himself, but he does it with no class. He calls out his organization and other players instead of keeping his business inside the locker room like most players.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
Oh I know, we are as good as the Kansas City Patriots. That being said, Weis is an ego maniac and cannot work with others ever since being a head coach. I'm curious to see how he does at Florida.  Originally Posted by Cy4Patriots Agreed, Give Brady props he helped Cassel become what he is today.
Props to Belichick for helping Weis, Romeo, Scott Pioli come to be who they are.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
Patriots can win all the awards, but they ain't gonna win the Lombardi this year.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by RedCyclone Oh I know, we are as good as the Kansas City Patriots. That being said, Weis is an ego maniac and cannot work with others ever since being a head coach. I'm curious to see how he does at Florida. I don't know why it's just accepted as true that Weis is an "egomaniac". He shot off his mouth a little upon getting the ND job years ago ("decided schematic advantage", etc.) but what else is there to support this notion?
As far as "not being able to work with others" the proof, in pro football especially, is on the field and the KC offense was incredibly improved. I'm not saying Weis gets all the credit for that because the entire offensive staff and the head coach did an outstanding job.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by Cy4Patriots Packers are stacked with talent. Yea, I understand that they had injuries, BUT the patriots had key injuries as well along with their best CB being a rookie. Their best 2 TE's were rookies. Their kicker was on IR. Brady was hurt half the season with an undrafted RB with a backup RB that was claimed the 2nd week after the Jets cut him. Their whole D Line was put on IR with their rookie LB on suspension for four games.
The Patriots and BB earned it. McCarthy is loaded with top notch people. Okay, okay they lost a good RB and an average TE doesn't matter they had experience everywhere in every position.
Again I will mention the Patriots got rid of Moss (HOF) and had the best record in the league.
I will make sure that he gets a vote next time.
I'm not saying Belichick didn't deserve to win, but you honestly look like a moron with these comments. You guys had to start a rookie RB? We didn't even have a ******* RB for most of the season! And don't forget that we lost both Finley AND Lee at the beginning of the season so we were playing with our 3rd and 4th string TE (Quarless and Crabtree (the white one..)) until Lee came back towards the end. And yes, as AlleyAddict said, Rodgers was running the offense through Finley this year so they had to basically change their entire scheme after he went down for the year. Oh, and Rodgers had 2 concusions this year as well.
And I'm not going to even let you count losing Moss because that was by choice, not by injury.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by Bubbahotep Patriots can win all the awards, but they ain't gonna win the Lombardi this year. Neither will the Packers. -
Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by Drive4cy I think he deserve to win it. Not much talent on that roster. The loss to the Jets was disappointing but it happens.
AFC was a lot better than the NFC this year, too. I am not saying the pro bowl means a whole lot, but wasnt the NFC winning like 50-7?
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by ItsCYence Neither will the Packers. Speaking of this when does Tomlin get his due? I guess Noll didn't get any COY awards either.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by Cy4Patriots Okay let me help you out a bit.
1. The COY voting is on the regular season, the voters can't take in to account the playoffs.
2. The Patriots had over 15 people on IR during the season.
3. The Patriots had the 2nd youngest team in the league
4. The loss of Randy Moss broke up the offense which lead to mid-season changes.
5. Best record in the NFL
Those are some of the reason he received it. And one of the lowest payrolls in the NFL. I think people don't perceive what Belichick did as impressive because honestly, everyone is getting kind of used to it. He's set the bar really, really high.
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Re: Bill Belichick named AP Coach of the Year
 Originally Posted by Cy4Patriots Packers are stacked with talent. Yea, I understand that they had injuries, BUT the patriots had key injuries as well along with their best CB being a rookie. Their best 2 TE's were rookies. Their kicker was on IR. Brady was hurt half the season with an undrafted RB with a backup RB that was claimed the 2nd week after the Jets cut him. Their whole D Line was put on IR with their rookie LB on suspension for four games.
The Patriots and BB earned it. McCarthy is loaded with top notch people. Okay, okay they lost a good RB and an average TE doesn't matter they had experience everywhere in every position.
Again I will mention the Patriots got rid of Moss (HOF) and had the best record in the league.
You sir, are an idiot.
BB won and deserved to be in the conversation, I get that. But before you go puking up arguments you might want to know what you are talking about. The number of missed games by Packers opening-day starters totaled 86. Here’s the breakdown. I'll even add the talent loaded replacement in (__):
RB Ryan Grant; 15 games missed. (replace by Jackson, Kuhn, and Starks)
S Morgan Burnett; 13.
LB Nick Barnett; 12. (Walden and Zombo, 3rd and 4th string)
T Mark Tauscher; 12. (Rookie Bulaga and TJ Lang)
TE Jermichael Finley; 11. (Rookie Quarless and Crabtree, 0 career catches)
LB Brad Jones; 10. (Walden and Zombo, 3rd and 4th string)
DE Cullen Jenkins; 5. (Howard Green off waivers)
FB Korey Hall; 4.
DE Ryan Pickett; 2.
LB Clay Matthews; 1.
QB Aaron Rodgers; 1.
Here is a list of other key Packers reserves that missed games this season:
DE Mike Neal; 14.
S Derrick Martin; 14.
LB Brady Poppinga; 10.
LB Brandon Chillar; 8.
S Anthony Smith; 6.
LB Frank Zombo; 3.
CB Sam Shields; 2.
The Packers scoured the waiver wire and promoted practice squad players into starting roles all season long. If those are top notch experienced players, I have something to learn.
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