Cards Offer Pujols $200 Million over 8 Years

**cycloneman003** · 02-16-2011, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by fwiw

Right. And look at what their $146M got them. 5th place finish and worst attendance in years.

But if the Cubs are determined to strangle themselves with Albert, I'm all for it.

thats not the point though. the cubs have $60 mil more per year to spend that anyone else in the division and if they spend $30 a year on albert, they are one of very few teams that can do that without killing their payroll. because if albert did sign with chicago, soriano and z's big contracts would be coming off in the early years of it and the cubs would still have a lot of money

**flynnhicks03** · 02-16-2011, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by fwiw

Right. And look at what their $146M got them. 5th place finish and worst attendance in years.

But if the Cubs are determined to strangle themselves with Albert, I'm all for it.

Sure you are.

If the Cubs sign Pujols, you'll be crying in your Budwiser.

**cyclonespiker33** · 02-16-2011, 12:16 PM

If anyone signs him for what he wants, it will be to compete for the next five-six years. Plus you always have the chance that he will break the all time homerun record, which could potentially bring in some very nice publicity and $$$

**cyclonespiker33** · 02-16-2011, 12:17 PM

What I mean is that, if the cubs were to sign him, and they won a world series during his contract, that makes him worth the money right?

**cygrads** · 02-16-2011, 12:17 PM

If the deal offered is 25mm/year the diff between that and A-Rob's 27.5mm/year is taxes. Taxes are probably much higher in NY and Boston - A-Rob's net pay after tax may very well be lower than AP's after tax take.

**CloneFan4** · 02-16-2011, 12:18 PM

Bring Albert to Chicago! Go Cubs Go!!!

**Wesley** · 02-16-2011, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by chuckd4735

I was thinking St Louis would try somehwere around 5 years $140 Mill ($28 Mill/year). I'm shocked they are shooting for 8 years!

Pujols probably told them he wanted 10 years.He wants to catch Barry bonds.

**Mumbai1986** · 02-16-2011, 12:24 PM

Can they make the contract front loaded, and have the last 3 to 4 years be cheap? They did that in hockey with Kovalchuks and Hossa's deals I think. This is baseball though, so I don't understand much. All I know is GO Cubs Go!

**fwiw** · 02-16-2011, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by flynnhicks03

Sure you are.

If the Cubs sign Pujols, you'll be crying in your Budwiser.

That's okay, I'm in the acceptance phase of grief already.

**CycloneErik** · 02-16-2011, 12:32 PM

With this and the whole thing of LaRussa talking in public, does anyone get the idea that this is the public pressure play from the Cardinals? The old idea of being the first one to speak and framing the argument against the other side idea seems to be in place here.

Cards speak about the huge amount of $ they'll give him, LaRussa talks about the union being the problem, and all of this amounts to public pressure on Pujols not to be the guy looking out only for himself.

**Naughtius** · 02-16-2011, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

With this and the whole thing of LaRussa talking in public, does anyone get the idea that this is the public pressure play from the Cardinals? The old idea of being the first one to speak and framing the argument against the other side idea seems to be in place here.

Cards speak about the huge amount of $ they'll give him, LaRussa talks about the union being the problem, and all of this amounts to public pressure on Pujols not to be the guy looking out only for himself.

Interesting theory, but I don't see TLR playing along. Say what you like about Tony, but he usually goes his own way (insert DUI joke here). If the Cards asked him to play this role, I think he'd tell them where to stick it.

**shagcarpetjesus** · 02-16-2011, 12:58 PM

It sounds to me like LaRussa is trying to to take the pressure off Pujols by making it sound like it's the player's union that wants a drawn out negotiation process. It's not Albert's fault, the union is forcing him to hold out for every last penny. Personally, I think it's a pretty stupid argument on TLR's part but you can't really fault a manager for trying to deflect the heat off of one his players. And he's shown in the past that's he's pretty much willing to say anything to protect one of "his guys" regardless of how crazy it sounds (see McGwire, Mark).

**chuckd4735** · 02-16-2011, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by rebecacy

Try this one

2011 - 1908 = ???

103

**Clones21** · 02-16-2011, 01:58 PM

Go get him Cubbies!

**cycloneman003** · 02-16-2011, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonespiker33

What I mean is that, if the cubs were to sign him, and they won a world series during his contract, that makes him worth the money right?

very very vaild point. if you have pujols as an elite hitter for the next 5-6 years still, and he helps you win a world series, i think he's worth every penny the cubs throw out there in an attempt to get him.