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    Re: Dodgers File for Bankruptcy

    I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks that baseball's payroll system is "fair" in relationship to the fans, is mistaken.

    Taken in the context of 30 billionaires is it fair? Sure. Except you don't have 30 billionaire owners that are really fully into the idea of owning a team to win a World Series. You've got a decent chunk of billionaires who thought..."hey, yeah, I like baseball, I should own a team..." and then just kind of hold on to it to show off to other billionaire friends...'oh, you have a Ferrari? Yeah, well check it out...I have the Milwaukee Brewers...somebody go get Grienke, he's let the caviar run out."

    I don't like the idea that some teams will every year spend their way to preseason playoff favorites with plenty of room to add frontline starters and 30HR mashers in mid season, while other fans have to sit around and hope for a sale or new ownership that won't set ridiculous payroll/expenditure restrictions on the team.

    Yeah, there is nothing baseball is doing that forces teams like the Royals or Marlins or A's or whoever to have tiny payrolls, but if some tightwad buys or inherits a team, the fans are the ones who get screwed.

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    Plus, there's just no recourse for the fans. What are they supposed to do?
    Force the owners out by not showing up? All that's going to do is bring out threats to move the team.

    Fund a $500 million stadium? That might work, but it hasn't been a guarantee in every case over the last decade.

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    Re: Dodgers File for Bankruptcy

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    Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and Kansas City haven't even come close in that time frame, and only the 2005 Toronto Blue Jays would have qualified for the playoffs if MLB had 6 teams per division in the playoffs.
    Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and Kansas City haven't been close, but that has more to do with terrible administrations and not having a plan more than spending money. Baltimore has spent money, just poorly. Pittsburgh and Kansas City now have administrations with a plan and are spending money on development and the results are starting to show.

    Yes, the Yankees and Red Sox can spend whatever they want, but that isn't necessarily going to win them games. They have expensive players, but they also have old, fragile players that won't live up to the values of their contracts.

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    Re: Dodgers File for Bankruptcy

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and Kansas City haven't been close, but that has more to do with terrible administrations and not having a plan more than spending money. Baltimore has spent money, just poorly. Pittsburgh and Kansas City now have administrations with a plan and are spending money on development and the results are starting to show.

    Yes, the Yankees and Red Sox can spend whatever they want, but that isn't necessarily going to win them games. They have expensive players, but they also have old, fragile players that won't live up to the values of their contracts.
    True, but at the rate the Yankees and Red Sox can basically print money...whats to stop them from just making a few more signings to make up for the old, fragile guys?
    So a few will be sunk costs, but I suspect they'll just absorb it and push ahead with different pieces.

    This is kind of the whole point...while it would seem like maybe the Yankees have painted themselves into a corner, they really haven't as they'll likely just spend their way out of it. There just isn't a point where enough is enough, and teams have to live with foolish contracts/decisions outside of if a particular owner has set their own cap. That may be the case for most teams, but for a few it clearly is not.
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    Re: Dodgers File for Bankruptcy

    Since the salary cap started, the Indianapolis Colts have made the post season more than any other NFL club, reaching the post season 69% of the time.

    Same time period for MLB. New York Yankees were the best. Made the post season 94% of the time.
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