Sox and Cards Talking Rasmus

**gocubs2118** · 07-24-2011, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

It would be idiotic for the Sox to trade either one for Rasmus - Jackson is a much more valuable player that Rasmus would be, and Thornton is too valuable from the left side to part with.

Jackson is signed for another two months and Rasmus is 24 years old with a boat load of potential. How is it dumb?

**CrossCyed** · 07-24-2011, 10:29 PM

Addison Reed is the prospect being discussed by some Cards fans.

**Iastfan112** · 07-24-2011, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

It would be idiotic for the Sox to trade either one for Rasmus - Jackson is a much more valuable player that Rasmus would be, and Thornton is too valuable from the left side to part with.

Your nuts, Rasmus is a former top 5 MLB prospect who is half a season off of an .850 OPS at a premium defensive position(CF) and is under team control for 3 more years following this one. He a potential star. Jackson meanwhile is a maddeningly inconsistent SP who is a FA following this year and Thorton is a excellent but aging RP. Rasmus is easily worth one or the other of those plus a quality prospect.

**Tornado man** · 07-24-2011, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Iastfan112

Your nuts, positionRasmus is a former top 5 MLB prospect who is half a season off of an .850 OPS at a premium defensive (CF) and is under team control for 3 more years following this one. He a potential star. Jackson meanwhile is a maddeningly inconsistent SP who is a FA following this year and Thorton is a excellent but aging RP. Rasmus is easily worth one or the other of those plus a quality prospect.

So...why would the Cards be interested in trading him? Just because he doesn't get along with LaRussa? Who really does?
Jackson I guess I could maybe see, but not Thornton. He's untouchable, IMO.

**HoraceGrant** · 07-24-2011, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by clonedude

Am I the only Cards fan that doesn't want the team to sign Pujols to a ten year 300 million dollar deal?

That will result in the demise of the team IMO. Pujols is a greedy jerk if he's really asking for that kind of a deal. Unless he wants the Cardinals to be terrible for as long as he's there?

Reminds me of A-Rod when he went to the Rangers and took 250 million, and then whined and complained that the team didn't go out and get good players to surround him with. Excuse me? The Rangers didn't have any money left to go get anyone else after paying you A-Rod.

Same with the Colts and Peyton Manning. On the one hand, Manning demands to be paid more than anyone else in the NFL, while on the other hand also asking for the Colts to go out and get him some elite WR's to throw to. Unreal. Is it more important to win, or to get paid? I don't care which one you choose, you have every right to get what you can financially, but don't then blame the team for not getting other good talent to surround you with.

I don't think many fans of any team want their team to give him that kind of dough, way too risky.

**CrossCyed** · 07-25-2011, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

So...why would the Cards be interested in trading him? Just because he doesn't get along with LaRussa? Who really does?
Jackson I guess I could maybe see, but not Thornton. He's untouchable, IMO.

A one pitch reliever that will make 6 million next year in his age 35 season should never be untouchable, especially when he's not your closer.

Sale does the same thing anyways.

**Cytom5** · 07-25-2011, 02:20 AM

please take edwin jackson. please please please!

**cyclonepower** · 07-27-2011, 12:00 PM

Looks like we are trading Rasmus for a bag of balls....

Trade of Rasmus to Blue Jays near

**pyrocyz** · 07-27-2011, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonepower

Looks like we are trading Rasmus for a bag of balls....

Trade of Rasmus to Blue Jays near

Really, You just got Edwin Jackson and a 25 year old reliever. The blue jays made the deal with the Sox to make the deal with you.

**dtclones** · 07-27-2011, 12:53 PM

What a stupid trade by the Cards. Can anyone explain this?

**cycopath25** · 07-27-2011, 01:08 PM

I was okay with moving Rasmus, but this is not a good deal.

**tejasclone** · 07-27-2011, 01:21 PM

I always liked Colby but it was frustrating watching him make so many bone-headed mistakes in the outfield or go cold for weeks on end at the plate. That said, he is only 24 and he may yet realize his potential.

Edwin Jackson is an underwhelming return, but he should be OK in the NL Central and with Dave Duncan as his pitching coach. It sounds like Rzepczynski will fill the LHP relief specialist role nicely, which is a spot the Cards have badly needed to fill for awhile. Dotel and Corey Patterson are not any better than anything the Cards could have gotten from their own farm system.

So, it's not really a terrible deal, but it's not a great deal. Hopefully the Cards can still get a competent shortstop before deadline.

**gocubs2118** · 07-27-2011, 01:22 PM

The Cards traded a 24 year old OF with still a boatload of potential for a two month rental. God, TLR can be so damn stupid with the hatred he has for some of his players.

**Clark** · 07-27-2011, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by dtclones

What a stupid trade by the Cards. Can anyone explain this?

no. At worst, Rasmus is an average everyday centerfielder but at 24 he has the upside to be an elite player.

You trade him for a mediocre pither you can only control for 2 months and a freakin reliever.

And you had to give up prospects to boot? Oh, but at least you got Corey Patterson back in the deal

**cyclonepower** · 07-27-2011, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

The Cards traded a 24 year old OF with still a boatload of potential for a two month rental. God, TLR can be so damn stupid with the hatred he has for some of his players.

+1, time for TLR to hang em up and he can take the incompetent GM with him