Matt Holliday is a dirty player

**HawkeyeGrant** · 07-31-2011, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by ICclone23

If the Cubs have any decency Matt Holliday takes a fastball in the ribs today.

If the Cubs had any decency Matt Holliday would have taken a fastball to the ribs yesterday after it happened.

**MNCYWX** · 07-31-2011, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by TitanClone

You serious, Clark?

Yes

Takes more time for the player to reach the plate. More time for the tag. I've seen it too many times. Slide for the plate. Not around it.

**JBone84** · 07-31-2011, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by HawkeyeGrant

If the Cubs had any decency Matt Holliday would have taken a fastball to the ribs yesterday after it happened.

I agree. It should have happened in his next at bat. Not like one extra baserunner was affecting the game.

**CyCrazy** · 07-31-2011, 07:01 PM

This thread is funny because it was started by a bitter cubbie fan. I didnt see the play but I am guessing that if a Cub did the same thing it would be a "Good Hard Baseball play".

**bigcyfan82** · 07-31-2011, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by CyCrazy

This thread is funny because it was started by a bitter cubbie fan. I didint see they play but I saw the arse whooping the Cards put on the cubs on Saturday. So I am guessing that play was irrelevant.

If you don't know what you are talking about, just don't post at all. The play was not irrelevant, and completely changed the game. Cubs were up 5-3 at the time, and a double play that should have been called because of interference would have ended that inning.

**bigcyfan82** · 07-31-2011, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by CyCrazy

This thread is funny because it was started by a bitter cubbie fan. I didnt see the play but I am guessing that if a Cub did the same thing it would be a "Good Hard Baseball play".

No, it wouldn't have been. Had he not stuck his leg out and kicked castro it would have been a "Good Hard Baseball play"

Because he stuck his leg out, and basically kicked and tripped castro, that is what makes it 'dirty'

Hard slides are a part of the game, but when you blatantly try to kick a guy who had already cleared the space where holiday would have normally slid is dirty. Castro had clearly cleared second base and where a normal slide would have taken place, then holiday sticks his leg out and kicks him...a complete surprise to castro and a dirty play by holiday

**CyCrazy** · 07-31-2011, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by bigcyfan82

If you don't know what you are talking about, just don't post at all. The play was not irrelevant, and completely changed the game. Cubs were up 5-3 at the time, and a double play that should have been called because of interference would have ended that inning.

Sorry knowing the score that one play didnt decide the game. If you want to justify it go ahead.

**gocubs2118** · 07-31-2011, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by CyCrazy

This thread is funny because it was started by a bitter cubbie fan. I didnt see the play but I am guessing that if a Cub did the same thing it would be a "Good Hard Baseball play".

You have no idea what the heck you're talking about.

**bigcyfan82** · 07-31-2011, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by CyCrazy

Sorry knowing the score that one play didnt decide the game. If you want to justify it go ahead.

It clearly did. Ending the inning up 5-3 would change the strategy of the pitchers. You can't assume that the cubs would have won 5-3, but I do know that the cards wouldn't have tied the score on that blatant interference slide and they wouldn't have ended up scoring 7 runs (I think that's how many they scored that inning)

If you believe that wasn't a game changing play, you obviously don't know baseball

**CyFan61** · 07-31-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by CyCrazy

This thread is funny because it was started by a bitter cubbie fan. I didnt see the play but I am guessing that if a Cub did the same thing it would be a "Good Hard Baseball play".

^^This absolutely. Anyone who claims otherwise (with the exception of the few reasonable Cubs fans) is wrong.

**CyCrazy** · 07-31-2011, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by bigcyfan82

It clearly did. Ending the inning up 5-3 would change the strategy of the pitchers. You can't assume that the cubs would have won 5-3, but I do know that the cards wouldn't have tied the score on that blatant interference slide and they wouldn't have ended up scoring 7 runs (I think that's how many they scored that inning)

If you believe that wasn't a game changing play, you obviously don't know baseball

Sorry bud, I do know baseball and if you are going to ***** and moan about one call that you claim lost you the game then you dont know baseball. I am guessing you still blame Bartman right?

**CyDude16** · 07-31-2011, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by CyFan61

^^This absolutely. Anyone who claims otherwise (with the exception of the few reasonable Cubs fans) is wrong.

I would have been disappointed had a cubs player done it...

Funny thing is the ESPN commentators use some common sense and realized it was a bad play by Holliday.

**gocubs2118** · 07-31-2011, 07:24 PM

Even the unbiased announcers think the slide was dirty.

**ISUAlum2002** · 07-31-2011, 07:24 PM

Dempster does the next best thing and K's Holliday while he's window-shopping.

I wouldn't put it past him to put one in his ribs before the night is done, though.

**CycloneDaddy** · 07-31-2011, 07:25 PM

Just another reason why my Cubs suck. How you don't at least throw inside to Holiday his first at bat is beyond me. Dumpster needs to stick up for his boy Castro.