Penalty or not?

**famwam** · 09-09-2011, 02:11 PM

Was I the only one watching the Packers vs Saints game that did NOT see any contact made by AJ Hawk in the end zone & thought it was just 1 hell of a great play? Nowhere & at no time did I see contact! It looked like it was a well time play by Hawk! Anybody else?

**Clonefan94** · 09-09-2011, 02:13 PM

Calls are blown all the time. At full speed, it's easy to see how that could be interpreted as PI on a first look. It's definitely not the worst PI call I've ever seen.

**3TrueFans** · 09-09-2011, 02:17 PM

You can see Sprole's head get pushed forward by Hawk as the ball is in the air, good call. Almost a great play, just a tad early.

**famwam** · 09-09-2011, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by 3TrueFans

You can see Sprole's head get pushed forward by Hawk as the ball is in the air, good call. Almost a great play, just a tad early.

Looks like the timing was perfect! The bcak judge ANTICIPATED contact! He could not see from the angle he had if there was any contact at all! He ASSUMED there had to be contact! Great play!

**3TrueFans** · 09-09-2011, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by famwam

Looks like the timing was perfect! The bcak judge ANTICIPATED contact! He could not see from the angle he had if there was any contact at all! He ASSUMED there had to be contact! Great play!

Well now you're just being silly, how do you know what the back judge could see or was thinking? Unless Sproles has eyes in the back of his head and knew when to fake his head movement at the exact time Hawk's arm flew over his head it was early contact.

**RING4CY** · 09-09-2011, 02:59 PM

I thought it was a blown call, but after looking at the definition of PI in the NFL, it was in fact, a good call:

Actions that constitute defensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(b) Playing through the back of a receiver in an attempt to make a play on the ball.

NFL Rules Digest: Pass Interference

**famwam** · 09-09-2011, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by RING4CY

I thought it was a blown call, but after looking at the definition of PI in the NFL, it was in fact, a good call:

NFL Rules Digest: Pass Interference

Yes, its THROUGH the back, not OVER the back without contact! I guess none of you Monday (or Friday) morning QBs have ever tried officiating? I know, because I have been a back judge before. So I do have a clue of what I'm talking about.

**RING4CY** · 09-09-2011, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by famwam

Yes, its THROUGH the back, not OVER the back without contact! I guess none of you Monday (or Friday) morning QBs have ever tried officiating? I know, because I have been a back judge before. So I do have a clue of what I'm talking about.

Obviously you don't know what you're talking about since I have officiated as well.

**Yes13** · 09-09-2011, 03:13 PM

Hawk almost took Sproles out, it was the right call. Lets just say if Hawk hadn't hit Sproles, Sproles would have caught it.

**3TrueFans** · 09-09-2011, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by famwam

Yes, its THROUGH the back, not OVER the back without contact! I guess none of you Monday (or Friday) morning QBs have ever tried officiating? I know, because I have been a back judge before. So I do have a clue of what I'm talking about.

So you're just not going to respond to fact that Hawk hit him in the head before the ball got there?

**BCClone** · 09-09-2011, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by famwam

Yes, its THROUGH the back, not OVER the back without contact! I guess none of you Monday (or Friday) morning QBs have ever tried officiating? I know, because I have been a back judge before. So I do have a clue of what I'm talking about.

I stayed at a holiday inn express, even the green bay one. Therefore, I say it was not a penalty, but understood the call from the replay. Great play, but as fast as things happen I give the benefit to the ref.

**RING4CY** · 09-09-2011, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by famwam

Yes, its THROUGH the back, not OVER the back without contact! I guess none of you Monday (or Friday) morning QBs have ever tried officiating? I know, because I have been a back judge before. So I do have a clue of what I'm talking about.

Hawk's knee/thigh is clearly making contact with Sproles THROUGH the back, BEFORE the ball is there. That. Is. Pass. Interference.

**Yes13** · 09-09-2011, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by 3TrueFans

So you're just not going to respond to fact that Hawk hit him in the head before the ball got there?

which took away his ability to jump, which took away his ability to catch, all before the ball got there. Yeah, that wasn't a PI

**GMackey32** · 09-09-2011, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by RING4CY

Hawk's knee/thigh is clearly making contact with Sproles THROUGH the back, BEFORE the ball is there. That. Is. Pass. Interference.

PWNED!

**cyclone87** · 09-09-2011, 03:25 PM

Looked like a reasonable PI call to me, Hawk definitely made contact from the back. He was really out of position to make a play, Sproles did a good job of getting inside of him, thought it was a good call.