Bernie on Albert

**rebecacy** · 12-15-2011, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by tm3308

I wouldn't take STL's rotation over Anaheim's. Carp is starting to get up there in age, Wainwright is coming off Tommy John. He may come back just as good as he was before, but we don't know. Berkman is also getting up there. Last year was great (several of my fantasy teams thank him), but counting on that kind of production going forward isn't necessarily a good move.

We just won a WS and we did not have Wainwright....... go talk about how good the cubs are going to be this year.

**tm3308** · 12-15-2011, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by rebecacy

We just won a WS and we did not have Wainwright....... go talk about how good the cubs are going to be this year.

Classic rebecacy when it comes to the Cards. Don't address a single point, just inform everyone that the Cards are awesome, and the Cubs suck.

**CyCrazy** · 12-15-2011, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by tm3308

Classic rebecacy when it comes to the Cards. Don't address a single point, just inform everyone that the Cards are awesome, and the Cubs suck.

Whats untrue about that statement?

**rebecacy** · 12-15-2011, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by tm3308

Classic rebecacy when it comes to the Cards. Don't address a single point, just inform everyone that the Cards are awesome, and the Cubs suck.

I'm dissappointed in Albert, my only point. You can rant all you like and I will still be dissappointed in Albert. He talked well but then did not walk that talk. Regarding the abilities of the Cards and Cubs. The truth hurts.

**swarthmoreCY** · 12-15-2011, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

He is better, and now he's getting paid like it.
I'm surprised that he left, but there's no reason to be bitter about it. That man gave years of underpaid service to the Cards.

Are the majority of Cards fans bitter he left, or how he left?

I do not know many fellow Card fans that wanted him for more than 200 million or 7 years. It is the two-face behavior that invokes bitterness.

**flynnhicks03** · 12-15-2011, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by rebecacy

I'm dissappointed in Albert, my only point. You can rant all you like and I will still be dissappointed in Albert. He talked well but then did not walk that talk. Regarding the abilities of the Cards and Cubs. The truth hurts.

Oops, didn't read very well

**CyCrazy** · 12-15-2011, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by flynnhicks03

The truth hurts Cardinal fans. Albert will be laughing all the way to bank.

It doesn't hurt me. I would have been more upset if the Redbirds would have given AP the deal the Angels did. STL does not have that kind of money. It would have been AP and a bunch of scrubs for a decade. No thanks...

**CycloneErik** · 12-15-2011, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye11en1

No bitterness here, he got paid and that's what he wanted. He won the Cards 2 WS in his time here. The rest of my pro teams suck, so thanks to him I have had a few rings to celebrate.

I might not be thinking of you..........

**Haverhill** · 12-15-2011, 04:43 PM

The next few years are most likely a rebranding project for the Cardinals, but it's better than Albert + scrubs for 10 years. One great player can't win a title... but several good players can.

**Hawkeye11en1** · 12-15-2011, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

I might not be thinking of you..........

I'm always on your mind.

**CyCrazy** · 12-15-2011, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Haverhill

The next few years are most likely a rebranding project for the Cardinals, but it's better than Albert + scrubs for 10 years. One great player can't win a title... but several good players can.

Totally agree, and the farm system is in good shape. Hopefully Freese, Craig, Wain, Carp and some free agents can keep it going.

**CloneFan319** · 12-15-2011, 05:07 PM

It's all about the Benjamins. What's done is done. I can only hope works out as well as it did for the Packers after Favre left. Go Cards!

**swarthmoreCY** · 12-15-2011, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Haverhill

The next few years are most likely a rebranding project for the Cardinals, but it's better than Albert + scrubs for 10 years. One great player can't win a title... but several good players can.

Imo, the mistake was to waste time going after Albert this off-season. This is where the "bitterness" comes in. If Albert would have been forthright about it being exclusively about the money, the Cards could have moved on, pursued other quality free-agents with the freed cabbage, and been in great position for another WS run.

Instead Pujlos gave mixed signals and the Cards lost out on some nice would be pick-ups. Oh well, they are still in position for a decent run. Better than the Cubs anyways.

**tm3308** · 12-15-2011, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by CyCrazy

Whats untrue about that statement?

Originally Posted by rebecacy

I'm dissappointed in Albert, my only point. You can rant all you like and I will still be dissappointed in Albert. He talked well but then did not walk that talk. Regarding the abilities of the Cards and Cubs. The truth hurts.

I didn't say it wasn't true. But it's irrelevant to this discussion. It's a classic change of subject for rebecacy, and it's his favorite subject to go to. He might as well have said Stephen Bloom is an arrogant jacka**. It's true, but it's irrelevant to this discussion.

**Hawkeye11en1** · 12-15-2011, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by tm3308

I didn't say it wasn't true. But it's irrelevant to this discussion. It's a classic change of subject for rebecacy, and it's his favorite subject to go to. He might as well have said Stephen Bloom is an arrogant jacka**. It's true, but it's irrelevant to this discussion.

Hey, I didn't change the discussion. But you chose to respond to rebeca over someone that didn't change the topic....:D