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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
 Originally Posted by CyCrazy Long term yes, short term he will still face a **** storm in Miami for awhile. That being said I doubt he gets fired. If Miami didn't know what kind of honey hole they were sticking there hand in with Ozzie its there own damn fault. Plus, Miami isn't likely to win the World Series.
And while I agree that you should expect Ozzie to say stupid things, you don't expect anyone to say they love Fidel Castro, unless they're family members or someone with a gun to their head.
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
 Originally Posted by CyCrazy Long term yes, short term he will still face a **** storm in Miami for awhile. That being said I doubt he gets fired. If Miami didn't know what kind of honey hole they were sticking there hand in with Ozzie its there own damn fault. exactly
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
Just broke on CNN that the Marlins have suspended Guillen for 5 games.
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
The Miami Marlins have suspended manager Ozzie Guillen for five games for comments he made in which he expressed admiration for Cuban leader Fidel Castro.
Guillen was expected to address the media in Miami on Tuesday morning over the comments, which were published on Time magazine's website last week.
Guillen told Time magazine for an article published last week that he loves Castro and respects him for staying in power so long. It's not the first time that he has praised Castro publicly. In a Men's Journal interview in 2008, Guillen was asked to name the toughest man he knows.
"Fidel Castro," he said. "He's a bull---- dictator and every-body's against him, and he still survives, has power. Still has a country behind him. Everywhere he goes they roll out the red carpet. I don't admire his philosophy. I admire him."
Guillen, who is from Venezuela but became a United States citizen in 2006, also praised controversial Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez in 2005. He had appeared on the leader's radio show twice and when asked about it, he said: "Not too many people like the president. I do."
Guillen has since been critical of Chavez. During his first news conference as Marlins manager in September, he bristled at a suggestion he supports Chavez.
"Don't tell my wife that, because she hates that man. She hates him to death," Guillen said. "I supported Chavez? If I was supporting Chavez, do you think I would be manager of the Marlins? I never supported Chavez."
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
 Originally Posted by jdoggivjc Just broke on CNN that the Marlins have suspended Guillen for 5 games. Trying to do some quick damage control before this thing spirals out of control.
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
Zombie Marge Schott approves of Ozzie's comments.
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
 Originally Posted by Doc If they fire him for speaking freely, the terrorists win! /Corrected
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
I'm not going to debate what he said, but I'm sick of people not being able to exercise their 1st amendment right. Either change it or live by it.
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
 Originally Posted by mj4cy I'm not going to debate what he said, but I'm sick of people not being able to exercise their 1st amendment right. Either change it or live by it. Nobody's rights were infringed upon.
Ozzie had a right to say what he did and said it.
Cuban-Americans have the right to be upset, and there are. They have the right to protest peacefully about their concerns.
The Miami Marlins are free to take whatever action they feel appropriate. And they did.
Everyone exercised their 1st amendment rights.
**Yes I know this has nothing to do with the 1st amendment because the government was not involved**
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
 Originally Posted by mj4cy I'm not going to debate what he said, but I'm sick of people not being able to exercise their 1st amendment right. Either change it or live by it. I missed where Ozzie was sent to prison. Link?
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
 Originally Posted by mj4cy I'm not going to debate what he said, but I'm sick of people not being able to exercise their 1st amendment right. Either change it or live by it. There are two things you have to keep in mind with this situation. First, Fidel Castro is viewed as the "Cuban Adolf Hitler". This would be the equivalent of Jurgen Klinsmann publicly stating that he admires Adolf Hitler. That would not fly well at all here in the United States and would probably lead to his dismissal from the USMNT.
Second, the Miami Marlins' new stadium is located in the Little Havana district of Miami.
Perhaps this whole thing has probably been blown completely out of proportion (and I definitely thought so until I started getting some context for it), but once again we get to witness just what kind of idiot Ozzie Guillen truly is.
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I agree there wasn't any legal issue with what he said....just still think people should say what they want. Their punishment is and still will be society thinking they are a moron.
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
 Originally Posted by mj4cy I agree there wasn't any legal issue with what he said....just still think people should say what they want. Their punishment is and still will be society thinking they are a moron.
If everybody could just always say what they want, this would be a pretty brutal world. I work insurance claims and have always said I wish there was one "free" day a year where I could say anything I wanted to people without repercussion. You can bet my phone would be very busy. The fact is, I have the "right" to say what I want to people, but there are always consequences if you don't speak judiciously. In Ozzie's case, society will hand out his punishment, along with MLB and the Marlins.
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Re: Ozzie Guillen's Mouth Gets Him in Trouble in Miami Already
 Originally Posted by CRcyclone6 Ozzie is an idiot. And an outspoken loudmouth. Not a good combination.
I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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