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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan94 View Post
    Barnes seems like a typical 20 year old kid with people around him giving him bad advice on how to attract fans. Although, we're still talking about him here, so who knows, maybe it's all working.
    I would say avoiding playing for the Sacramento Kings if at all possible is actually very good advice.
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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    Kobe's a winner, but is he very likeable? Same with Eli - as soon as he said he wouldn't go to the Chargers, I immediately disliked him, and haven't changed my stance. Elway is the only exception, IMO.

    HB keeps talking all about his "brand." I guess he wants coming off as a spoiled, entitled brat to be part of it. I don't know him or if that's who he really is, but it certainly gives the impression.
    I said nothing about his likeability (which I agree, he's not). The post I quoted specifically stated that winners play for the team that drafted him. That comment has been disproven multiple times in this thread.
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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    I said nothing about his likeability (which I agree, he's not). The post I quoted specifically stated that winners play for the team that drafted him. That comment has been disproven multiple times in this thread.
    I totally agree with that - the three listed are winners, I was more commenting on the thread at large. With the possible exception of Elway, I just don't find any of them likeable, and that's supposedly what Barnes wants to be. He wants everyone to love him, to buy into him, to be a megastar. Kobe is a megastar, but more infamous with many than not.
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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    well, the 2002 Western Conference Finals kind of did prove that the Kings will never win a championship...as in THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP.

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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    I totally agree with that - the three listed are winners, I was more commenting on the thread at large. With the possible exception of Elway, I just don't find any of them likeable, and that's supposedly what Barnes wants to be. He wants everyone to love him, to buy into him, to be a megastar. Kobe is a megastar, but more infamous with many than not.
    EXACTLY-- are kids going to buy the Steel Blue Falcon underoos if no one likes him?

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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Bo Jackson is another example of a pretty universally liked player who refused to sign with the team that drafted him.
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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneLawman View Post
    EXACTLY-- are kids going to buy the Steel Blue Falcon underoos if no one likes him?
    I just snorted - awesome! Ran out of rep, though.
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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    Great owners? They suck. They have no one on that team who wants to play defense. I wouldn't want to go there either.
    He'd fit right in.

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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    They last one a championship in 1945 and since then have won the conference once and the division 5 times per Wikipedia. What a storied franchise. I can understand not wanting to play for that.
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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    So you're saying Kobe Bryant wasn't a winner then? After all, he was drafted by Charlotte, and, after refusing to play there, was traded to the Lakers.
    I realize hes won a lot of games, what I meant is if you have the winning attitude you shouldnt be afraid of a challenge. Kobe is a little *****.

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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by kilgore_trout View Post
    Not that I care but from my perspective HB isn't a great decision maker.
    I agree, and I'm thankful for it. I firmly believe that we don't end up with Fred if Barnes had signed with ISU.


    Also, refusing to play for the team that drafted you is a ***** move. I thought Eli was a punk for doing it, and I think Barnes is too (if true).
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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    Bo Jackson is another example of a pretty universally liked player who refused to sign with the team that drafted him.
    "Jackson was drafted first overall in the 1986 NFL Draft by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. However, the Buccaneers, not wanting their new draftee to injure himself playing baseball for Auburn that year,[citation needed] took Jackson on a trip in a private plane that cost him his college eligibility. They also gave Jackson an ultimatum to choose baseball or football. This prompted him to sign with the Kansas City Royals.[13] Since he did not sign with a team by the 1987 draft, his rights were forfeited by Tampa Bay and his name was thrown back into the draft. The Los Angeles Raiders selected Jackson in the 7th round with the 183rd overall pick.[14] Raiders owner Al Davis supported Jackson and his baseball career and got Jackson to sign a contract by offering him a salary that was comparable to a full-time starting running back but allowing Jackson to join the Raiders only after the baseball season ended."

    Not anywhere near the same thing.

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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    They last one a championship in 1945 and since then have won the conference once and the division 5 times per Wikipedia. What a storied franchise. I can understand not wanting to play for that.
    2002 kind of proves they can't win more than anything. They were clearly the best team in the playoffs and still couldn't win the playoffs.

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    Re: Harrison Barnes refuses to sign with Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    well, the 2002 Western Conference Finals kind of did prove that the Kings will never win a championship...as in THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP.
    If only vlade would have not swatted the ball directly to robert horry...if only

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    If only vlade would have not swatted the ball directly to robert horry...if only
    You leave vlade out of this, he is a saint!

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