Ray Allen to the Heat

[IHavNoCyCash]

Why you quoting me, brah? I just said he sucks.

How does he suck as a person?

[BryceC]

Why you quoting me, brah? I just said he sucks.

quote thing got messed up, i'm on a phone.

[peteypie]

He had no say in getting talent in Cleveland, thats all up to the owner and GM. Easy for you to call him out when I bet over 60%, if not more, would have done the same thing. The owner is an idiot and as screwed his own team, that isnt on Lebron. I dont fault Lebron on second for going to Miami. Cleveland doesnt deserve him if they didnt want to build a team around him.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I find it hard to believe if Wade and Bosh both wanted to play in Cleveland, they would have been turned away.

[Hawkeye11en1]

How does he suck as a person?

Because he hasn't given me any money? How is this not obvious?

quote thing got messed up, i'm on a phone.

Not good enough! You say you're sorry!

[LLCoolJansma]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I find it hard to believe if Wade and Bosh both wanted to play in Cleveland, they would have been turned away.

True, but there have been rumors the Lebron wanted Wade and Bosh to come to the Cavs initially... however the Cavs attempting to make a couple of final runs with James took on a number of bad contracts such as Mo Williams, Antwon Jamison to name a couple thus not allowing for them to add both players.
Oh and why would anyone choose to go to Cleveland if they could be a multi millionare on South Beach especially when they are single and 25.

Add in the fact they were Free Agents the should be able to go where the want. Both Bosh and James played 7 years for Toronto and Cleveland only one finals appearece to show for it. Two years playing together in Miami they have two finals to show for it. They made the right choice even if it wasn't popular.

Everyone can have their opinion, honestly it is good. Even if people root for the Heat to lose they still watch the games and thus care on the outcome. Win for the NBA.

[peteypie]

True, but there have been rumors the Lebron wanted Wade and Bosh to come to the Cavs initially... however the Cavs attempting to make a couple of final runs with James took on a number of bad contracts such as Mo Williams, Antwon Jamison to name a couple thus not allowing for them to add both players.
Oh and why would anyone choose to go to Cleveland if they could be a multi millionare on South Beach especially when they are single and 25.

Add in the fact they were Free Agents the should be able to go where the want. Both Bosh and James played 7 years for Toronto and Cleveland only one finals appearece to show for it. Two years playing together in Miami they have two finals to show for it. They made the right choice even if it wasn't popular.

Everyone can have their opinion, honestly it is good. Even if people root for the Heat to lose they still watch the games and thus care on the outcome. Win for the NBA.

Exactly, you made my arguement for me. He bailed on his hometown, because he couldn't win alone. Then they went on to proclaim they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Thus the Heat Hate. You have to understand why people hate on them. Same reason I hate on the Yankees in baseball.

[HFCS]

It's about time you understood that. Replace cyclones with bulls and iowa, nebraska, etc. with the heat and that's you.

I'll be waiting for the first poster you harass for disliking Iowa or any Big 12 teams ISU faces. In August and September you'll probably need to call out 99% of us, yourself included for being "haters". You might want to arrange your work schedule so you'll have the time for maybe 50,000 to 100,000 posts.

I've never denied I don't like Miami, I even disliked them long before I ever heard of LeBron James. A lot of people who spend 100s of posts defending them against "haters" won't admit to liking them. There's where the embarrassment and denial lies. Nobody wants to admit when they're a front runner. Stings.

[Rabbuk]

I might be in the minority but I actually think Jamison is a pretty good play, just not good enough to carry the team like he was sort of forced to try to do post Lebron, and pre-kyrie.

[LLCoolJansma]

Exactly, you made my arguement for me. He bailed on his hometown, because he couldn't win alone. Then they went on to proclaim they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Thus the Heat Hate. You have to understand why people hate on them. Same reason I hate on the Yankees in baseball.

It's a weak argument.
He was drafted by Cleveland, not Akron his home town. Who says he even wanted to play there at all. He may have been hoping someone else got the first pick so he could get out of the Fish Bowl of his "hometown". What if Detroit had the No 1 pick and he left for Miami after 7 years cause he wanted too it would have been better?

Secondly Cleveland franchise has proven to be mismanaged. Lebron needed to leave to win. If he would have stayed by himself people would call Lebron out for not taking a chance and going to a contender. He dragged a Cav's team to 60+ wins with nobody around him. He played excellent in the playoffs all those years but with out any players around him he could break through.

The reason you hate the Yankee's is ther reason I respect them. They may get premier players but the are committed to excellence and the spend the money they get. Not getting to the playoffs isn't an option. Don't settle for medicrate, James didn't.

[WalkingCY]

I'm a HUGE Celtic fan since the Bird years.... I just can't believe that Ray is going to play for these ********. I'm sorry, but I will have to root against you now Ray.

[Tre4ISU]

Exactly, you made my arguement for me. He bailed on his hometown, because he couldn't win alone. Then they went on to proclaim they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Thus the Heat Hate. You have to understand why people hate on them. Same reason I hate on the Yankees in baseball.

No one has ever won alone. No one.

I'll be waiting for the first poster you harass for disliking Iowa or any Big 12 teams ISU faces. In August and September you'll probably need to call out 99% of us, yourself included for being "haters". You might want to arrange your work schedule so you'll have the time for maybe 50,000 to 100,000 posts.

I've never denied I don't like Miami, I even disliked them long before I ever heard of LeBron James. A lot of people who spend 100s of posts defending them against "haters" won't admit to liking them. There's where the embarrassment and denial lies. Nobody wants to admit when they're a front runner. Stings.

I think most of us were just trying to bring some rationality to the James/Heat subject rather than jump on the "OMG LeBron James and the Heat club baby seals" bandwagon.

[Scott34]

I'm a HUGE Celtic fan since the Bird years.... I just can't believe that Ray is going to play for these ********. I'm sorry, but I will have to root against you now Ray.

So your not going to like someone because they want a ring? If thats the case, the Celtics are washed up and arent going to be able to sniff a title as old as they are getting.

I love the fact at how many people on this board think pro sports is about being loyal. Its a business and the athletes want titles. You guys would do the same thing given the chance.

[Sloup]

A bit off the subject, I'm glad people finally have to just admit they hate the Heat instead of hiding behind how LeBron sucks because he doesn't have a ring.

[CycloneYoda]

Heat are looking to start something. I still think Tim Duncan has one ring left in him, and I want him to take the Heat down before the dynasty begins.

[CYVADER]

A bit off the subject, I'm glad people finally have to just admit they hate the Heat instead of hiding behind how LeBron sucks because he doesn't have a ring.

I don't think anyone is just now admitting they hate the heat. most have hated them since the decision. its not anything new just because James won a ring. everybody hates James, thus they hate the heat.