Re: Kansas City Chief's Fans - Dream Scenario?
**** (all in uppercase) NO....
Geno Smith seems to have an attitude problem. Cam Newton 2.0 perhaps. Have you seen some of his post game interviews?? Did you see his body language and attitude during the K-state game. Plus he is a throwing QB. He doesn't run that much. Chips offense does rely alot on running Qb's and fast running backs.
I want nothing of him on the Chiefs. I would say Barkley but when was the last time a USC QB not name Carson Palmer worked out.
Chip Kelley as coach..... Maybe. But I don't see the offense working. Too much speed at pro level. It's not like you are playing Washington or Washington State even Colorado every week in the NFL. Plus, after seeing it once in a season defenses will adjust and be able to stop it.
Re: Kansas City Chief's Fans - Dream Scenario?
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CycloneGB
The problem is there is too much speed on defense. In college, Oregon's offense works because they spread the D and expose weaknesses (slower players, big guys in space, etc.). In the NFL it is hard to do that because the guys on D are just as fast or faster than the skill players they are defending.
Just for reference, you said use McCluster and Charles like Oregon does. McCluster ran a 4.58 40 yard dash, Charles ran a 4.38. Look at guys like Patrick Willis (4.51) Brian Cushing (4.57) Von Miller (4.49) and even a huge guy like JJ Watt (4.81) and compare those to any team Oregon plays (say Cal for now) whose 2 outside linebackers run a 4.77 and a 4.98.
I know thats just going off 40 which obviously doesn't perfectly translate to everything on the football field. But when you have athletes, that are basically the cream of the NCAA crop every year, starting at every position on the field in the NFL, a system like that just doesn't seem to translate.
Agree completely.
I think that offense would be a failure in the NFL, especially after the first season, or even half season.
Oregon succeeds in college because the talent is spread so thin on defenses. What percentage of NFL talent do they face on defense over their schedule? How many teams do they play with more than 2 future NFL players on defense.
They were shut down by Auburn.
It's a whole different proposition trying to run that against a defense of 11 NFL guys vs. a defense with 2 NFL guys, another All-Conference guy, 6 decent college players and a walk-on.
Re: Kansas City Chief's Fans - Dream Scenario?
Oregon still isn't getting really getting big name recruits in the big scheme of things. You can't tell me that guys they are throwing out there on offense are that much faster than the guys on the USC defense.
Re: Kansas City Chief's Fans - Dream Scenario?
1. Pioli should have been fired 2 months ago.
2. Crennel is not the answer at coach
3. There is not an NFL Qb on the rooster
4. Fire Pioli again just because he deserves it
5. The Chiefs will do nothing more than fire Crennel and they will continue to suck.
Wake me up when they clean the whole joint out.
Re: Kansas City Chief's Fans - Dream Scenario?
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thatguy
btw if Pioli stays the next coach of your Kansas City Chiefs is Kirk Ferentz
As a hawk hater and a Chiefs fan, this is like getting kicked in the balls twice. That said, if the speculation about KF having a $20M buyout are even close to true, I don't see this happening. The general feeling in KC is that Pioli has been a little too tight with the purse strings, so I don't see him coughing up that much cash to get a guy who has never set foot on the field as an NFL head coach.
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cybsball20
Oregon still isn't getting really getting big name recruits in the big scheme of things. You can't tell me that guys they are throwing out there on offense are that much faster than the guys on the USC defense.
No. But I can tell you the match-ups that their system is designed to exploit are much more one-sided than they would be in the NFL.
De'Anthony Thomas and Kenjon Barner who both run sub-4.4 forty times coming around the corner one-on-one against USC's LB's or safeties is a much more lopsided match-up than Dexter McCluster and Jamaal Charles coming around the corner on Patrick Willis or Troy Polamalu.
Re: Kansas City Chief's Fans - Dream Scenario?
Geno Smith isn't fast nor a runner. The last two years he has 50 total rushing yards. So it would have to be different than what Oregon has traditionally run under Chip.
If Geno is their QB and Chip is their coach, their offense would run similiar to a NE in that they would be primarily shotgun
Re: Kansas City Chief's Fans - Dream Scenario?