Stern vs Popovich. Who ya got?

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Originally Posted by jbhtexas

Playing those guys for a token 2-3 minutes would not have been acceptable in my eyes.

As for what Adam Silver said, if you had bothered to check the context in which his remark was given, you would realize that it is irrelevant to this year's situation. Silver's comments were made last year in April while the NBA was playing a very compressed schedule (because of the lockout) with much less downtime between games (i.e. teams playing 4-5 games per week instead of the normal 2-3). The NBA is playing a normal schedule this year, not a compressed schedule with minimal downtime between games.

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How many minutes should these players that the coach determined needed to rest have to play?

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Originally Posted by jbhtexas

Playing those guys for a token 2-3 minutes would not have been acceptable in my eyes.

As for what Adam Silver said, if you had bothered to check the context in which his remark was given, you would realize that it is irrelevant to this year's situation. Silver's comments were made last year in April while the NBA was playing a very compressed schedule (because of the lockout) with much less downtime between games (i.e. teams playing 4-5 games per week instead of the normal 2-3). The NBA is playing a normal schedule this year, not a compressed schedule with minimal downtime between games.

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I see, so the commissioner's office should have a say not only on whether or not players can take a game off to rest, but also how many minutes they need to play in games that they do participate in. Is that your stance?

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Originally Posted by Mr Janny

I see, so the commissioner's office should have a say not only on whether or not players can take a game off to rest, but also how many minutes they need to play in games that they do participate in. Is that your stance?

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You forgot to include the part where teams need to consider what's best for the league before they try to, you know, win games themselves.

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Originally Posted by CyJack13

You forgot to include the part where teams need to consider what's best for the league before they try to, you know, win games themselves.

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Oh yes, I did forget that. Perhaps each team should be required to submit their lineups and planned rotations before each game for Stern's approval? That way, he has a chance to consider the good of the game, and make any necessary adjustments before tipoff.

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Originally Posted by Mr Janny

I see, so the commissioner's office should have a say not only on whether or not players can take a game off to rest, but also how many minutes they need to play in games that they do participate in. Is that your stance?

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The league can make whatever rules it wants regarding when players participate, and how much they play when they do. If they players and coaches don't like it, they can strike, or find somewhere else to work.

My stance is that the stars should be on the floor every night, playing the amount of minutes needed to provide the best competition. I'm looking at it from the business perspective, and I make no apologies for that. I really don't prefer the concept of "rest games", it was just a thought on how the NBA could accommodate its customers (the ones that provide the revenue). If rest is needed, the concept of off or reduced weeks would seem to be better.

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Originally Posted by 3TrueFans

Who wins, The San Antonio Tim Duncans vs. Ditka.

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Adrian Peterson would run right through both!!

The league makes rules, but the commissioner intercepts problems that are outside the rules. I suspect that Stern has a good sense of what the owners want on this and will try to nip it in the bud. He has to be careful about anything that taints the sense of competition and fairness, particularly when so much fan support is tied to betting.

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Originally Posted by jbhtexas

The league can make whatever rules it wants regarding when players participate, and how much they play when they do. If they players and coaches don't like it, they can strike, or find somewhere else to work.

My stance is that the stars should be on the floor every night, playing the amount of minutes needed to provide the best competition. I'm looking at it from the business perspective, and I make no apologies for that. I really don't prefer the concept of "rest games", it was just a thought on how the NBA could accommodate its customers (the ones that provide the revenue). If rest is needed, the concept of off or reduced weeks would seem to be better.

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by whose determination? And again, it can be easily argued that resting Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker is just as likely to pay dividends to the health of the league down the line, as a rested player is likely to play better and not as likely to get injured.

Stern, or anyone besides those within the Spurs organization should have nothing to say about who/how much someone plays. Had this game not been televised and included the Miami Heat no one would be making such a big deal about this. Stern feels like he had egg on his face, so he's playing things up. How is this any different than a team resting guys after playoff spots have been clinched and they want to rest up for the playoffs? Why should it matter what games during the year a coach decides to sit a player? A game in December counts just as much as a game in April.

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Originally Posted by Cycsk

The league makes rules, but the commissioner intercepts problems that are outside the rules.I suspect that Stern has a good sense of what the owners want on this and will try to nip it in the bud. He has to be careful about anything that taints the sense of competition and fairness, particularly when so much fan support is tied to betting.

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Then why hasn't he stepped in and prevented teams from tanking to increase their odds at a high draft pick each year? Why hasn't he stopped teams from resting their starters before playoff games?

The owners don't want this, which is why the Spurs "significant sanctions" will turn out to be nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

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Originally Posted by CyJack13

The owners don't want this, which is why the Spurs "significant sanctions" will turn out to be nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

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Or, maybe, the owners generally don't want teams sitting star players during the early season marquee TV games when fan interest is typically lower than later in the season. Perhaps that's why Stern made the strong statements that he did?

Are you and NBA insider, or somehow connected with the NBA? How do you know what the owners do and don't want?

The league is composed of franchises. The league has all sorts of authority related to the product of those franchises, particularly to ensure fairness in competition and quality of entertainment. Therefore, the commissioner will act accordingly.

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ensure fairness in competition and quality of entertainment.

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:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

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Originally Posted by Cycsk

The league is composed of franchises. The league has all sorts of authority related to the product of those franchises,

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Correct. Unfortunately, this is a point that is apparently lost on a number of those posting in this thread...

[QUOTE=jbhtexas;3185184]Or, maybe, the owners generally don't want teams sitting star players during the early season marquee TV games when fan interest is typically lower than later in the season. Perhaps that's why Stern made the strong statements that he did?

Are you and NBA insider, or somehow connected with the NBA? How do you know what the owners do and don't want?[/QUOTE]

First off this is hilarious coming from you and considering some of your posts in this thread. Second, I know this because almost every NBA has "tanked" in some form (resting guys for playoffs, trying to get a high draft pick) at some point in the last few years. Hard to condone the behavior when your team is doing it as well.