RG3 Needs total reconstruction

**CtownCyclone** · 01-09-2013, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by ruxCYtable

I was listening to Mike & Mike on the way in this morning. I have never heard this before, but whoever the guest was (didn't catch the name) said that still, in 2013, TWO-THIRDS of NFL players who have reconstructive knee surgery NEVER return.

That sounds hard to believe at first glance. But then again, there are quite a few players who aren't big names that you don't realize never come back after that type of injury.

**cmjh10** · 01-09-2013, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by CtownCyclone

That sounds hard to believe at first glance. But then again, there are quite a few players who aren't big names that you don't realize never come back after that type of injury.

More of that might have to do with their name. If Adrian Peterson would have completely blown out his knee and was dropped by the Vikings, Im sure almost any team would pick him up and give him another chance based off of his name. Now if some third string WR who only plays special teams blew out his knee, I doubt any team would pick him up.

**klamath632** · 01-09-2013, 12:21 PM

It was mind-bogglingly stupid for him to be on the field. Coaches and doctors get paid to make decisions, and they should have told RG3 "thanks, but no thanks."

**Clonefan32** · 01-09-2013, 12:28 PM

Washington needs to do two things:

1) Teach him how to slide.

2) Get rid of that zone read. If he's going to get hit at least do it on broken pass plays. Him taking hits in the run game in addition to scrambles is going to end him.

**UNIGuy4Cy** · 01-09-2013, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by ruxCYtable

I was listening to Mike & Mike on the way in this morning. I have never heard this before, but whoever the guest was (didn't catch the name) said that still, in 2013, TWO-THIRDS of NFL players who have reconstructive knee surgery NEVER return.

I bet the stat is true, but misleading since 3rd stringer Joe Shmoe doesn't have James Andrews repairing his knee. The bigger of a star the more the organization is going to spend to get the right help for you.

**Clonefan32** · 01-09-2013, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy

I bet the stat is true, but misleading since 3rd stringer Joe Shmoe doesn't have James Andrews repairing his knee. The bigger of a star the more the organization is going to spend to get the right help for you.

I've never understood the whole James Andrews thing. Once you've diagnosed a knee injury, isn't the surgery fairly straightforward? I figured it was probably pretty black and white how to repair a torn ACL.

**ruxCYtable** · 01-09-2013, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by CtownCyclone

That sounds hard to believe at first glance. But then again, there are quite a few players who aren't big names that you don't realize never come back after that type of injury.

Originally Posted by cmjh10

More of that might have to do with their name. If Adrian Peterson would have completely blown out his knee and was dropped by the Vikings, Im sure almost any team would pick him up and give him another chance based off of his name. Now if some third string WR who only plays special teams blew out his knee, I doubt any team would pick him up.

Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy

I bet the stat is true, but misleading since 3rd stringer Joe Shmoe doesn't have James Andrews repairing his knee. The bigger of a star the more the organization is going to spend to get the right help for you.

Yeah, you guys are probably right. The big name guys are the ones who are given a second chance. But when Joe Schmoe from the practice squad tears up his knee, it's over.

**wonkadog** · 01-09-2013, 01:05 PM

I am sooo looking forward to daily updates of how many different therapeutic exercises he has done on the knee, how many dumps he has taken since his last meal, and what video game he played in the last hour. I hope ESPN dedicates hours and hours of mindless debate over whether he should have been in the game/continued playing in the game/come back to start next year/wait until mid-season. I can't get enough!!!!

**CtownCyclone** · 01-09-2013, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by wonkadog

I am sooo looking forward to daily updates of how many different therapeutic exercises he has done on the knee, how many dumps he has taken since his last meal, and what video game he played in the last hour. I hope ESPN dedicates hours and hours of mindless debate over whether he should have been in the game/continued playing in the game/come back to start next year/wait until mid-season. I can't get enough!!!!

Would you rather hear about that or Tebow?

**uro cy** · 01-09-2013, 01:48 PM

Unfortunately AD has raised the bar way too high on expectations for recovery from ACL repair... Hopefully he/they don't hurry back to quickly.

**uro cy** · 01-09-2013, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by CLONECONES

So do you blame Shanahan?

I think he shares part of the blame.
First, after the injury in the 1st quarter, they had a 14 point lead and the 2nd leading rusher in the league...yet hardly used Morris.
Secondly, they saw over the next two quarters that RG3 was clearly ineffective as a runner and passer, why not bench him and bring in a healthy backup with a decent amount of time left in the game. Cousins had clearly played well as a backup in prior pressure situations.

**cmjh10** · 01-09-2013, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by uro cy

I think he shares part of the blame.
First, after the injury in the 1st quarter, they had a 14 point lead and the 2nd leading rusher in the league...yet hardly used Morris.
Secondly, they saw over the next two quarters that RG3 was clearly ineffective as a runner and passer, why not bench him and bring in a healthy backup with a decent amount of time left in the game. Cousins had clearly played well as a backup in prior pressure situations.

I agree with this. Cousins good very well be a good starting QB some time in his career. He was perfectly capable of finishing the game and winning it.

**Amesboy** · 01-10-2013, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by CyFan61

RGIII will be on the phone with Adrian Peterson talking about rehab soon

Agree. Thinking the same thing. AP went into an insane rehab program and betting RG3 is looking at the same program AP did. If he ever wants to be a running QB again he might want to rehab as if he would be returning as a running back. Rebuilding an already rebuilt knee. Like a copy of a copy-

**cyhiphopp** · 01-10-2013, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Clonefan32

I've never understood the whole James Andrews thing. Once you've diagnosed a knee injury, isn't the surgery fairly straightforward? I figured it was probably pretty black and white how to repair a torn ACL.

Actually, there are apparently many different types of surgery depending on the type of tear, severity, and the type of athlete getting the surgery. One of the local sports radio shows had a surgeon on the other day and he went into a lot of detail. If AP and RGIII tore different ligaments then there's a chance they will have very different procedures.

**CtownCyclone** · 01-10-2013, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Amesboy

Agree. Thinking the same thing. AP went into an insane rehab program and betting RG3 is looking at the same program AP did. If he ever wants to be a running QB again he might want to rehab as if he would be returning as a running back. Rebuilding an already rebuilt knee. Like a copy of a copy-

That's got to be worrisome. I'm not sure if RG3 comes back as the same type of player he was this season.