Ray Lewis

Rapelisberger. That is all.

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Originally Posted by Cy4Patriots

Again, I will ask. What are these "many many factors"?

You're not the only one that says this. I'm curious to where to people get this stuff.

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I went into this more in response to your question in the NFL playoffs thread.

"With Brady, ever since he became a star, it's been all about him. Modeling, dating models... He just seems like he's really in love with himself, like most d-bags are. I am also sick of the media's love affair with him. Yes he is good and on a really good team, but I don't think it's all about him."

In many ways I am just sick of the Patriots and anything to do with them. It has become a haven for d-bags with Gronkowski now pushing himself as gods gift to football and women.


Honestly, if TB and BB had different personalities, it might be different. I actually like the Pats style of play and think BB is a really good coach. I just really don't like the Patriots anymore.

Mark Sanchez went the same route recently with his media image. I thought he was a tool for doing so as well. He just didn't back it up with any wins.

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Originally Posted by FarminCy

I was actually a huge fan of Big Ben at the very beginning of his career and thought he was going to be one of the next great ones on and off the field. He just seemed like an average guy who was easy to route for. Then it became obvious he was an idiot away from the field.

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Agreed. It sucks because my favorite team needs him. The way the OL is playing lately he might have a shorter career though.

I think Big Ben has a better shot for REAL redemption than Ray Lewis however. Ben's done some stupid stuff and put himself in horrible situations. Hopefully he can stay out of trouble and just be a QB for the rest of his career.

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Originally Posted by Tank

Doesn't he endorse Uggs? The same Uggs that my wife, sister, nieces and 99% of women all wear?

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Yes, Uggs is not complaining on what he is wearing nor is the Patriots organization.

Big Ben and Kobe creep me out. Got no problem with Brady really except I think he probably was the source of some bad press about his babymama. I'm not much of a fan of Belichick and that is my problem with the Patriots. I can't stand the thought of Ray Lewis winning. I hope KO stays as far the heck away from him as possible. Since I also can't stand the SF Harbough or their punk quarterback, only team left I can tolerate is the Falcons and I'm not really sure Matty Ice can get it done. Just really glad they took down Cheat Carroll or I would have no teams left I can stand. I'm trying just to move on to basketball. Really excited about Niang.

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Originally Posted by benjay

Actually, he does. Brady has cultivated a fashion-icon image and parlayed it into some big time money on endorsements.

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Yes, but the Patriots don't care about that. They care about winning.

For someone to say he's a D-bag for wearing something in the post-game interview is reaching.

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Originally Posted by Cy4Patriots

Again, I will ask. What are these "many many factors"?

You're not the only one that says this. I'm curious to where to people get this stuff.

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Since your asking, here is my top 3.

He's a cheater that went unpunished
The tuck rule
The Brady rule

And I have to watch a grown man playing one of the most physical sports there is constantly whine for the refs to throw flags whenever someone breathes on him.

Tom has slowly made the transformation to metrosexual pretty boy. I don't necessarily dislike him as a person, but he does seem a lot more tool like every year.

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Originally Posted by Cy4Patriots

For someone to say he's a D-bag for wearing something in the post-game interview is reaching.

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Not really. Common phrase - "he looks like a d-bag". It's subjective of course, but I bet most guys have said that about someone before.

I did not know about the uggs thing... i would rather he have killed two people.

If it walks like a ****** and talks like a ****** it's probably a ******.

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Originally Posted by Cycl1

I did not know about the uggs thing... i would rather he have killed two people.

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Thanks so much for the laugh.

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Originally Posted by benjay

Rapelisberger. That is all.

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This is what drives me nuts about the whole Ray Lewis thing. People call Roethlisberger "Rapelisberger" and other names, and rightfully so. I have heard multiple Steelers games where the announcers bring up Big Bens off the field issues and discuss it in length about what he needs to do to turn himself around. Yet Ray Lewis doesn't have a murderer nickname nor does anyone during games bring up the murders and his issues off the fields in his past. He has turned in to the sacred cow of the NFL. Roethlisberger has never been convicted of any sexual assault while Ray Lewis admitted to being a part to a murder and plead guilty to a lesser charge and narked on his friends to save his own ***.

I just pray that they get destroyed this weekend and when he gets inducted into the HOF they talk about his entire career, the murders and all instead of just post 2000.

Slay Lewis works for me.