NFL MVP

**SuperCy** · 12-21-2007, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Balls

Although Tom Brady is a good QB, his numbers are a direct result of being on the best team.

This has always been my feelings about Joe Montana. Good to great QB w/ a GREAT supporting cast around him

**JJ4ISU** · 12-21-2007, 11:21 AM

Brady, followed by Favre, Adrian Peterson (MN) and LT. I like the fact Derek Anderson is listed, too. He's had a great year. Cleveland can sit Brady Quinn for a few years, in my opinion.

**wonkadog** · 12-21-2007, 11:25 AM

How can someone vote for Favre and not A.P.? The Packers have some good offensive threats (Jennings/Grant) to go along with Favre while the Vikings have a bunch of average talent. Everyone knows that the Vikings need A.P. to do well in order to win and they still haven't slowed him down too much. (On a side note, I hate both teams so my opinion is pretty unbiased)

**Balls** · 12-21-2007, 11:32 AM

Most GMs would take a 21 year old Favre over a 21 year old Brady. Knowing what we know about each of them and how they impacted their teams, no QB has given more than Favre.

**Mr Janny** · 12-21-2007, 11:37 AM

How can someone vote for Favre and not A.P.?

I'm a huge Vikings fan, and I cannot agree with you on this. A.D. is great, and will be great for years to come, but he's no MVP. Not over Favre, anyway. The Vikes have proven that they can win without A.D. Take away Favre, and the Pack are a barely better than average team.

**Balls** · 12-21-2007, 11:41 AM

MN has one of the best lines in the NFL. I think Taylor is almost as effective as Peterson. You put Peterson behind an average line and I don't think AP is part of this conversation. He would still be really good but not the "stud" he's made out to be. Many of those holes he's running through I could drive my car through without worry of contact.

Originally Posted by wonkadog

How can someone vote for Favre and not A.P.? The Packers have some good offensive threats (Jennings/Grant) to go along with Favre while the Vikings have a bunch of average talent. Everyone knows that the Vikings need A.P. to do well in order to win and they still haven't slowed him down too much. (On a side note, I hate both teams so my opinion is pretty unbiased)

**Balls** · 12-21-2007, 11:48 AM

Unfortunately, I agree as I a Packer fan and fear the days when Favre is gone. It will be a surprise to many GB fans to finally realize how good he is and how average GB may become without him. I hope their youth movement may help and I just hope Rodgers is serviceable.

MN has a great O-line. I think that is their strength. Not saying AP is not awesome, just saying that line has made Taylor look like a MVP. If GB could have MN's line, the GB O would be unstoppable.

Originally Posted by jdewaard

I'm a huge Vikings fan, and I cannot agree with you on this. A.D. is great, and will be great for years to come, but he's no MVP. Not over Favre, anyway. The Vikes have proven that they can win without A.D. Take away Favre, and the Pack are a barely better than average team.

**CYdTracked** · 12-21-2007, 11:54 AM

Why is it even a debate? Brady hands down. He's only going to shatter how many single season records?

**clones26** · 12-21-2007, 12:15 PM

Sage Rosenfels....ok I guess I will vote for Brady actually. I love A.D. and think its funny that the MIN was needed just to make sure nobody got him confused with the teddy Bears A.P. Yes A.D. has holes the size of a car to run through, however his greatness takes a 6 yard gain and makes it a 35 yard run for a TD.

**Rogue52** · 12-22-2007, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Balls

Most GMs would take a 21 year old Favre over a 21 year old Brady. Knowing what we know about each of them and how they impacted their teams, no QB has given more than Favre.

Brett Favre is 21 years old??? What rock I am sleeping under???

MVP this year is Brady.

**A-town Cy** · 12-22-2007, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Boony

Gotta be the PURPLE JESUS

I would have to agree...

**mwitt** · 12-22-2007, 02:30 AM

I don't understand why people are saying Green Bay will be average without Favre. One game obviously doesn't make a career, but is everyone forgetting the Green Bay/Dallas game, or did just none of you see it since it was on the network? Aaron Rodgers had outstanding numbers, and I thought he played even better than his numbers indicated. He was down 27-10 on the road against one of the top teams in the NFL, and he led his team back.

I get sick of everyone making arguments of talent around them. Who cares, honestly? The Packers have excellent talent this year.

The way I look at MVP, even though most don't, is what would happen if a player were to be injured. I don't think there's any question that New England would be in more trouble than Green Bay in this instance.

Let the flaming begin.