Santana finally traded!

LindenCy · 01-29-2008, 05:32 PM

If you are getting garbage anyway, isn't it almost better to just let him finish out the year and get that one year of service out of him? or trade him to a contender in June or July? or was his contract up before the end of this year?

isucyfan · 01-29-2008, 05:33 PM

Just stopped jumping around and saw that they didn't even have to add in their young OF prospect Martinez! Great trade.

cybsball20 · 01-29-2008, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jables22

Carlos Gomez = Christian Guzman.

Must've come down to the Mets prospects and 13 mil off the books this year vs. The rest of Santana's contract and 2 first round compensation picks next year.

So pretty much lose-lose-lose..........

I would have gone with the rest of Santana's contract and 2 first round compensation picks next year. You could pick up two college pitchers in the draft and be in virtually the same spot next year PLUS had Santana pitch for you...

jtd9046 · 01-29-2008, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

I would have gone with the rest of Santana's contract and 2 first round compensation picks next year. You could pick up two college pitchers in the draft and be in virtually the same spot next year PLUS had Santana pitch for you...

Completely agree. Hopefully the Twins scouts see something in these four that no one else does.

shildreth · 01-29-2008, 05:35 PM

I'm a mets fan so I love it!!!

However the twins didn't get screwed. They would have been screwed if they didn't get anything in return. However Gomez is a very solid fielder. avg hitter, with great speed!

Humber could be ready to start but not quite star potential yet. Guerra is an 18 yr old 6'5" 200lb kid. Could be a stud. If anyone knows pitching prospects it is the twins. Which is probably why Pelfrey was not included in the trade.

I don't know much about mulvey.

CloneFan65 · 01-29-2008, 05:37 PM

I'm just glad he didn't come out to the NL West.

CTTB78 · 01-29-2008, 05:43 PM

I guess the Pohlad's get to keep some of their money and the fans wishing for .500 seasons. Sell the club if you don't want to keep the best players in the game.

jtd9046 · 01-29-2008, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by shildreth

However the twins didn't get screwed. They would have been screwed if they didn't get anything in return.

I don't like the fact that Peter Gammons said "Not one of these four prospects would be in the Red Sox or Yankees top ten prospects."

That to me is 'screwed'.

Again, hope I'm wrong.

guitarchitect7 · 01-29-2008, 05:45 PM

Now we will wait and see if a contract extension can be agreed upon. That will be the real clencher.

isucyfan · 01-29-2008, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by guitarchitect7

Now we will wait and see if a contract extension can be agreed upon. That will be the real clencher.

I think there's no question he'll be signed. Minaya and the Mets can't have gone this far and then say it's too much money. Santana's agent is the same one as Jose Reyes, too, which can't hurt.

CloneIce · 01-29-2008, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by isucyfan

Mets, Mets, Mets!

Yeah, baby!!!!

Mets fan here, BTW.

Me too!! Yes, I am pumped!

That just completely transformed our pitching rotation.

MrGreg · 01-29-2008, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by cycloneworld

At least they got something for him. They would have lost him to free agency after this year because they wouldn't have paid him the $20 million per year he would fetch on the open market.

The Twins offered him $100M over 5 years. That's $20M a year, but he wanted a longer contract, and probably more money. I'm not happy with this trade at all. It may turn out to be decent down the road, but I'd rather keep him this year and make a run. Seriously, how do you trade away the best pitcher in baseball for zero proven players?

mjones34 · 01-29-2008, 06:01 PM

I'm a die hard Twins fan. As much as I hate to see Santana leave, at least we're getting something for him. Also, I'm happy he's not a YANKEE!!!!

isucyfan · 01-29-2008, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by cycloneworld

At least they got something for him. They would have lost him to free agency after this year because they wouldn't have paid him the $20 million per year he would fetch on the open market.

They would have gotten two #1 draft picks if they would have kept him and then lost him to FA after this year. Some Twins fans think this would have been a better outcome.

CTTB78 · 01-29-2008, 06:10 PM

I hope the Gammons comment is really wrong, because if it is, why wouldn't we take the Boston offer of their young CF and who ever they wanted to throw in? Has to be the money on both ends. Twins didn't did want to pay Ellerby and Co. and the Sox didn't want to pay Santana.