Congrats New York Giants - SB XLII Champions, Eli Manning MVP

Angie · 02-03-2008, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

IMO, that sour attitude was a product of his father, Archie, far more than it was Eli.

I could see that - he felt "entitled" to both the first pick and a choice team. It's amazing that Peyton seems far more level-headed.

chrishull14 · 02-03-2008, 11:03 PM

Does Archie Manning's DNA now get a display in the Hall of Fame?

Cyclone711 · 02-03-2008, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Angie

I was actually against Eli, but for the Giants in general. His snotty attitude during his draft left a sour taste in my mouth that probably won't ever go away.

You still have to be happy for the kid after all the stuff he has been through because of his critics. Just imagine if you will, if Tavaris Jackson was the Giants QB. The guy would have been run out of town by now by the NY media. New York has killed more athletes careers than they have made because of their media.

ISUFan22 · 02-03-2008, 11:04 PM

I dunno about P. Manning being more level-headed.

Eli almost never shows emotion. Good/bad/ugly - usually the same blank stare. This has actually been something people have criticized him for. Being too calm/dull/oblivious.

Angie · 02-03-2008, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by mwitt

Do you dislike John Elway too? Eli laid his own bed by working his way to New York and taking a ton of grief from the NY media, and he got threw it and beat the only team in NFL history to win 18 games. Have to respect that.

I do respect the wins of him and his teammates. (I personally think the NY Giants defense were the MVP's, but Eli evading that sack and completing that pass to Tyree was obviously exceptional.) I just do NOT have respect for his whiny attitude when he got drafted - he took grief from the media at that time because he was a spoiled brat.

I think he played a heck of a game today - and has won some incredible games over the last few weeks. Many props on that.

ISUFan22 · 02-03-2008, 11:10 PM

He was perceived to be a spoiled brat.

If you don't want to go work for Company A - you have that choice. In the NFL - that choice is a bit tougher - especially during the draft. When you make it public you have no desire to "work" for "Company A" for certain reasons - you're labeled a brat. I defended Eli for his decisions then and I'll continue to do so today.

He didn't want to play for SD and I don't blame him at all.

Angie · 02-03-2008, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

He was perceived to be a spoiled brat.

If you don't want to go work for Company A - you have that choice. In the NFL - that choice is a bit tougher - especially during the draft. When you make it public you have no desire to "work" for "Company A" for certain reasons - you're labeled a brat. I defended Eli for his decisions then and I'll continue to do so today.

He didn't want to play for SD and I don't blame him at all.

Unless you're a free agent, you really don't get this choice in the NFL. Especially not if you're an unproven rookie asking for millions of dollars. I respect that people like him a lot - and again, I think he's had a heck of a year. I just choose to not enjoy his attitude.

cyclonez7 · 02-03-2008, 11:17 PM

So much for this book.....

http://www.amazon.com/19-0-Historic-Championship-Englands-Unbeatable/dp/1600781500/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1202098581&sr=8-1

ISUFan22 · 02-03-2008, 11:18 PM

Ang - we'll agree to disagree.

Originally Posted by cyclonez7

So much for this book.....

Amazon.com: 19-0: The Historic Championship Season of New England's Unbeatable Patriots: Books: Boston Globe

superdorf · 02-03-2008, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonez7

So much for this book.....

Amazon.com: 19-0: The Historic Championship Season of New England's Unbeatable Patriots: Books: Boston Globe

I love it!

mjones34 · 02-03-2008, 11:23 PM

I had always been kind of hard on Eli as the rest of the media, but man he has proven that he's a Manning and he has the heart of a champion. That last drive was something that Peyton couldn't do or even Brady this year. He had a great post season and it was fun watching him.

cyclonez7 · 02-03-2008, 11:28 PM

It's too bad for Ellis Hobbs. Keyshawn Johnson just called him the "duck" of the Patriots. He made a key interception in the first half, when the Giants were about to score. He had a good game up until the last TD by Burress, which is all people will remember.

benjay · 02-03-2008, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonez7

It's too bad for Ellis Hobbs. Keyshawn Johnson just called him the "duck" of the Patriots.

Hobbs didn't lose the game. The Giants defense won the game. Anyone who says differently is an idiot. Or a hawk fan (which makes them an idiot).

superdorf · 02-03-2008, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by benjay

Hobbs didn't lose the game. The Giants defense won the game. Anyone who says differently is an idiot. Or a hawk fan (which makes them an idiot).

Agreed... But he did get burned on the biggest play of the game, so he will be linked to that play forever.

ISUFan22 · 02-03-2008, 11:32 PM

I know, Hobbs did a horrible job by intercepting that pass on the "tip-drill". Cut him!

He was part of 2 of the biggest plays of the game. One good, one bad. Brady had those too (TD pass, fumble).