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02-04-2008, 10:19 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Grimes, IA
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So, he left the game early - a second left on the clock, game decided. But the coach did leave the field early.
A few years back, Randy Moss left the field early at the end of a frustrating Viking loss. He was blasted by the media for it.
Shouldn't Bill Belichick, the head coach of a team, feel the same wrath?
Personally, neither bothers me all that much. But for the sake of consistency - similar actions should have similar results.
Clarification...
I'm not referring to him going to midfield - he did think the game was over as well as thousands of others.
However - as Jeremy noted - he was told by the refs and his assistants the game was not over. He not only continued to midfield (not an issue for me), but he promptly left the field (this is the issue).
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Last edited by ISUFan22; 02-04-2008 at 10:26 AM.
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02-04-2008, 10:24 AM
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I can understand why he left - he thought the game was over - BUT he had been told by the ref several times, including before giving the congratulations to the Giants that the game wasn't over and that a play still had to be snapped. Personally I though it was kinda low to leave before the snap just out of respect for the Giants. I realize people handle things differently but if a player or coach for the Giants had been in the same situation and done the same thing, the media would be all over it - along with crowning Tom Brady as the second coming of the almighty.
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02-04-2008, 10:24 AM
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I didn't like the move either. However, in his defense:
EVeryone in the stadium thought the game had ended and he already had congratulated Coughlin in the middle of the field. So it wasn't like he left without acknowledging the win for the Giants.
I never have liked Bill. Great coach but has very poor sportsmanship and people skills.
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02-04-2008, 10:25 AM
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Of course he could have been just leaving to look over some "film"  |
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02-04-2008, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Grimes, IA
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I'm not referring to him going to midfield - he did think the game was over as well as thousands of others.
However - as Jeremy noted - he was told by the refs and his assistants the game was not over. He not only continued to midfield (not an issue for me), but he promptly left the field (this is the issue).
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02-04-2008, 10:26 AM
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He was definitely in a hurry to get out of there, I think the big difference was he did run across the field to shake hands with Tom Coughlin. Where Moss just left. I still think it was an immature thing to do. Of course I think Belichick is a punk, so my opinion might be biased.
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02-04-2008, 10:27 AM
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I think the difference is when Moss left they were attempting an onside kick to try to come back and win, in this case the game was virtually over
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02-04-2008, 10:28 AM
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I listened to him get interviewed by FSR after the game outside the locker room and all Chris Myers could get was one or two word answers. That is just the kind of guy Bellicek is. I can't stand him! My one question about his success is this: is it him or the organization? When he was in Cleveland they were BAD! What changed? The players for sure...but what made him rise to the level of the all-time great coaches? What did he learn from Cleveland to New England?
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02-04-2008, 10:29 AM
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But they were all destroyed...........not.
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02-04-2008, 10:32 AM
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Credits: 481,890 Year: 1994 NFL: Vikings NBA: Lakers MLB: Dodgers | Re: Bill Belichick Originally Posted by ISUFan22 So, he left the game early - a second left on the clock, game decided. But the coach did leave the field early.
A few years back, Randy Moss left the field early at the end of a frustrating Viking loss. He was blasted by the media for it.
Shouldn't Bill Belichick, the head coach of a team, feel the same wrath? He was getting blasted pretty good on the sports talk radio I was listening to this morning on the drive in.
I think he should also get blasted for the hoodie he was wearing with the cut-off sleeves...
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02-04-2008, 10:33 AM
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So much for not hearing about the Patriots anymore.....
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02-04-2008, 10:34 AM
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| | Speechless
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Grimes, IA
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We're not seeing even remotely close to the same media attention about his walk-off though.
And I'm a guy that respects and likes the guy. I really like his look - it's football, not church. The man should wear what he wants. At least he's sporting the team colors.
But leaving early was tasteless - period.
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02-04-2008, 10:34 AM
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Credits: 530,027 NFL: Vikings MLB: Yankees | Re: Bill Belichick Originally Posted by Stelrs1995 But they were all destroyed...........not. The NFL supplied the Giants with tape from the Patriots | | |
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02-04-2008, 10:35 AM
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Credits: 548,041 | Re: Bill Belichick Originally Posted by cyfanatic I listened to him get interviewed by FSR after the game outside the locker room and all Chris Myers could get was one or two word answers. That is just the kind of guy Bellicek is. I can't stand him! My one question about his success is this: is it him or the organization? When he was in Cleveland they were BAD! What changed? The players for sure...but what made him rise to the level of the all-time great coaches? What did he learn from Cleveland to New England? He learned about A\V equipment.
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02-04-2008, 10:35 AM
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Credits: 1,092,983 Year: 2004 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Re: Bill Belichick Originally Posted by clonez I think the difference is when Moss left they were attempting an onside kick to try to come back and win, in this case the game was virtually over Right. The game was over when he left the field, the remaining snap and kneel was just a formality. But I'm sure people will try to make a big deal out of it...with success comes scrutiny.
The guy just lost the Super Bowl after being 12 pt favorites, I'm sure he was upset. Who cares if he left early, he still made a point to acknowledge and speak to Coughlin at mid-field which is what really matters IMO.
Personally, I like the guy because he doesn't give a crap what everyone else thinks. His players respect the hell out of him which is the most important thing IMO.
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