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02-06-2008, 04:20 PM
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#1 | | Facebook Knows All
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FOX Sports on MSN - MLB - Report: Physical evidence could damn Clemens
Not only would this prove Clemens took steriods, it could bring federal charges on Clemens who recently denied the claim under oath.
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02-06-2008, 04:27 PM
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#2 | | Addict
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Originally Posted by cycloneworld  Nobody knows what Clemens said under oath. His session lasted 5 hours, thats a long time to deny deny deny. I am guessing they were working out something to keep spin in check...
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02-06-2008, 04:37 PM
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#3 | | All-Star
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Wow, I hope he goes down.
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02-06-2008, 04:43 PM
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#4 | | WAAAAHHHH!
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He just like Bonds screwed themselves when they came out and played the falsely accused victim. I honestly think the best play is to do what Petite(sp?) did and come out and say he used some stuff at one time when it wasn't illegal blah, blah, blah. Does it hurt their Hall of Fame chances? Probably. Of course Clemens said he didn't give a "rat's ***" about that.
If it comes out that he did use and there is physical evidence, the jail time will certainly hurt the HOF chances more than an admission of partial guilt.
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02-06-2008, 04:45 PM
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#5 | | waylaid by jackassery
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wow. I'll bet Roger's legal team is working late tonight. Here's the thing. If he took steroids, and it comes out that he's been lying this whole time, the public is going to come down on him so hard that Barry Bonds is going to look like a choir boy by comparison. To me, Pettitte did it the right way. Come clean. Apologize. Cooperate. His reputation is in far better shape than the Rocket's. You can make the case that Pettitte only admitted it after he was named in the report, and he did nothing to aid Gerorge Mitchell, and that's tough to argue with. But now that it's out in the open, he seems to be manning up.
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02-06-2008, 04:46 PM
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#6 | | Addict
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Originally Posted by cys_av8r If it comes out that he did use and there is physical evidence, the jail time will certainly hurt the HOF chances more than an admission of partial guilt. Nobody knows what he said under oath yet, so I doubt there will be any jail time, he's not dumb enough to lie under oath...
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02-06-2008, 04:47 PM
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#7 | | WAAAAHHHH!
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Originally Posted by cybsball20 Nobody knows what he said under oath yet, so I doubt there will be any jail time, he's not dumb enough to lie under oath... Yet he is dumb enough to take steriods and then play good guy to the whole world...
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02-06-2008, 04:51 PM
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#8 | | Addict
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Originally Posted by cys_av8r Yet he is dumb enough to take steriods and then play good guy to the whole world... And dumb enough to cash over $100 million because he took steroids.
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02-06-2008, 04:52 PM
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#9 | | WAAAAHHHH!
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Originally Posted by cybsball20 And dumb enough to cash over $100 million because he took steroids. Touche....but are you admitting that he wouldn't have done nearly what he did without steriods? That is my opinion and the reason I think the HOF should go bye-bye.
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02-06-2008, 04:52 PM
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#10 | | Hall-Of-Famer
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Anyone else not give a crap about this steroid stuff. Its time to just focus on catching people now and forgeting about the past steroid users.
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02-06-2008, 04:54 PM
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#11 | | Addict
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Originally Posted by cys_av8r Touche....but are you admitting that he wouldn't have done nearly what he did without steriods? That is my opinion and the reason I think the HOF should go bye-bye. I think his career would have been over 5 years ago had he not done steroids. At that point, he already had a HOF career, so in my opinion, he should be in...
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02-06-2008, 04:54 PM
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#12 | | Hall-Of-Famer
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he's not dumb enough to lie under oath... HA! Hilarious.
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02-06-2008, 04:55 PM
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#13 | | WAAAAHHHH!
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Originally Posted by cybsball20 I think his career would have been over 5 years ago had he not done steroids. At that point, he already had a HOF career, so in my opinion, he should be in... Isn't he accused of taking steriods well prior to 5 years ago?
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02-06-2008, 04:59 PM
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#14 | | Prospect
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cybsball20 according to his comments after the 5 hours he continued to deny while under oath... "It was great to be able to tell them what I've been saying all along — that I've never used steroids or growth hormone," the seven-time Cy Young Award winner said.
From the St. Louis paper... I'm sure there are hundreds of other articles with his same comments. STLtoday - Sports - Cardinals | | | |
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02-06-2008, 05:00 PM
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#15 | | WAAAAHHHH!
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Originally Posted by jose cybsball20 according to his comments after the 5 hours he continued to deny while under oath... "It was great to be able to tell them what I've been saying all along — that I've never used steroids or growth hormone," the seven-time Cy Young Award winner said.
From the St. Louis paper... I'm sure there are hundreds of other articles with his same comments. STLtoday - Sports - Cardinals Guess he IS dumb enough and a pompous *** to boot!
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