Cubs increase offer for Roberts

**jDub** · 03-14-2008, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Iastfan112

Why not Ryan Theriot?

In the words of scouts - he's best suited as a utility player. Many think that he doesn't have the tools to be an everyday player. Half the stolen bases of Roberts and about a .025 difference in batting average. Very little pop in the bat compared to Roberts. About the only knock on Roberts is that he strikes out too much.

**cyclone9** · 03-14-2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by cys_av8r

We always seem to want to mortgage the future for a washed up player. This deal is no different IMO.

While I hate the thought of giving up talented prospects like veal, ceda, and gallagher, the main goal of any team is to win the world series. I think this deal would get them closer to that goal.

**HILLCYD** · 03-14-2008, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by cyclone9

While I hate the thought of giving up talented prospects like veal, ceda, and gallagher, the main goal of any team is to win the world series. I think this deal would get them closer to that goal.

Roberts ain't gonna make the difference. I am greatly worried about this pitching staff.

**cyclone9** · 03-14-2008, 03:20 PM

Cubs pitchers were second in the league in ERA last year with a 4.04 and they've added more pitching. Add to that the fact that they will have a healthy Kerry Wood in the bullpen for a full season, and I'd say the staff looks pretty good. Also, the pitchers traded to Baltimore won't contribute much for another 1-2 years. You can't rely on potential over a proven commodity IMO.

**HILLCYD** · 03-14-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by cyclone9

Cubs pitchers were second in the league in ERA last year with a 4.04 and they've added more pitching. Add to that the fact that they will have a healthy Kerry Wood in the bullpen for a full season, and I'd say the staff looks pretty good. Also, the pitchers traded to Baltimore won't contribute much for another 1-2 years. You can't rely on potential over a proven commodity IMO.

Dumpster in the starting rotation and you aren't worried?

**guitarchitect7** · 03-14-2008, 03:23 PM

Here's my thoughts!

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**Bobber** · 03-14-2008, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by cyclone9

Cubs pitchers were second in the league in ERA last year with a 4.04 and they've added more pitching. Add to that the fact that they will have a healthy Kerry Wood in the bullpen for a full season, and I'd say the staff looks pretty good. Also, the pitchers traded to Baltimore won't contribute much for another 1-2 years. You can't rely on potential over a proven commodity IMO.

I would not bank on Wood staying healthy all season.

**superdorf** · 03-14-2008, 11:59 PM

I am sorry... I just don't see the Cubs being any better by making this trade.

We have PLENTY of offense... I am more concerned about the rotation and middle relief.

**Cyclone90** · 03-15-2008, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by jDub

They seem determined to get this deal done one way or another.

Ordering up a trade :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Cubs

I don't think switching Soriano to the two spot is a coincidence. They're trying to get him reps before the trade.

**guitarchitect7** · 03-15-2008, 01:24 PM

No way in heck was switching Soriano to #2 a coincidence! Somethings going to happen one way or another.

**CrossCyed** · 03-15-2008, 01:28 PM

The only problem with Roberts is that he was a steroid user.

Otherwise, I'd really like him on the Sox. He's talented.

**Cyclone90** · 03-15-2008, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by guitarchitect7

No way in heck was switching Soriano to #2 a coincidence! Somethings going to happen one way or another.

Yup. Either Crisp or Roberts. Roberts probably fills a hole better although I don't want to give up too much in exchange.

**cycloneryan** · 03-15-2008, 01:57 PM

This is the year for the cubs but I don't really see what the big need for this guy is.

**guitarchitect7** · 03-15-2008, 02:24 PM

With as hot as the Roberts talk has gotten, I see that being the deal thats made. Although, Marquis with Crisp would be alright with me!

The question comes, is Crips really that much better of a hitter the Pie? Pie has the defense, no doubt, so now we're just looking for a bat and leadoff guy! I think with this factor, Roberts is the better canidate to go for.