MLB: Cubs Interested in Jim Edmonds

travman23 · 05-13-2008, 10:50 AM

Cubs interested in Edmonds -- ChicagoSports.com

Interesting... I'd rather have Kenny Lofton but there must be a reason behind why no one signed Lofton yet. Still, he can't be any worse at the plate than Pie has been.

cybsball20 · 05-13-2008, 10:52 AM

I think they wanted Edmonds as a possible left handed bat off the bench. Funny that Ward finally starts hitting when these rumors start up...

guitarchitect7 · 05-13-2008, 10:55 AM

Oddly enough, I would take him. They wouldn't be overpaying him, they need a left handed bat, and Pie isn't work out as expected. With Him and Reed Johnson, I think Edmonds would get his chance to stay healthy and contribute. He has the veteran experience that could have a positive impact for the team.

cybsball20 · 05-13-2008, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by guitarchitect7

Oddly enough, I would take him. They wouldn't be overpaying him, they need a left handed bat, and Pie isn't work out as expected. With Him and Reed Johnson, I think Edmonds would get his chance to stay healthy and contribute. He has the veteran experience that could have a positive impact for the team.

He may have veteran expereivnce but he is a vastly overrated defensive player and known to be one of the worst clubhouse guys around. I would stay away from him...

cardinal&gold · 05-13-2008, 10:58 AM

Edmonds can no longer hit a baseball. His defense is not what it once was.

As a Cards fan, it will be quite strange watching Edmonds in a Cubs uniform. He will struggle in every game, except against the Cards, when he will hit 3 home runs every time and rob our hitters of at least one home run of our own each time.

isuarch80 · 05-13-2008, 11:04 AM

I'll stick with Pie off the bench because he can help defensively as well. Edmonds is washed up.

Player

TEAM

POS

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

TB

BB

SO

SB

CS

OBP

SLG

AVG

J EdmondsSDOF 26 90 6 16 2 0 1 6 21 10 24 2 1 .265 .233. 178

F PieCHCOF 30 63 4 14 1 0 1 7 18 4 23 2 0 .286 .286 .222

CycloneErik · 05-13-2008, 11:10 AM

I'd rather be patient with Pie, and let him develop, instead of letting Edmonds break down.

Felix has really nice potential, and we have guys to cover while he develops.

Rogue52 · 05-13-2008, 11:23 AM

This is sooo Cubs...

1st: Pie could have brought you the world if they had pulled the trigger on him 2 years ago. Now, he looks nothing more than your typical Corey Patterson.
2nd: Rush to find the nearest former Cub killer that is now completely washed up = Jim Edmonds.

Cy Heavy · 05-13-2008, 11:32 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'd take Lofton anyday over a cardinal's castoff

isuarch80 · 05-13-2008, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rogue52

This is sooo Cubs...

1st: Pie could have brought you the world if they had pulled the trigger on him 2 years ago. Now, he looks nothing more than your typical Corey Patterson.
2nd: Rush to find the nearest former Cub killer that is now completely washed up = Jim Edmonds.

So let me get this straight:
1. When a young, top MLB prospect is in your system, you trade him away for "veterans" who will help for a year or two and be done with them, while the prospect is finally maturing and understanding the pro game and is now an every day player (Corey). There are only so many Griffeys, ARods, etc that are 19 and playing the majors every day. Pie just turned 23. Yeah, give up on him! Soto is 2 years older and was only ready this year (part of last year). Evan Longoria is the same age as Pie. Sizemore is 3 years older than Pie and hasn't yet turned into the MVP/All Star power hitting CF everyone thought. His D is still awesome, but still working on the offensive side of things where he's not consistent.
2. I'm trying to see how this is "so Cubs" and how Edmonds was ever a Cub killer? I've gone through the transactions this decade and haven't found another player signed that's ever been considered a "Cub killer"...

I'm just wondering about basis for these arguments...

cybsball20 · 05-13-2008, 11:39 AM

The guy is still a clubhouse cancer, not what you want with a relatively young team... Stay away, run away!

psychlone99 · 05-13-2008, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Cy Heavy

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'd take Lofton anyday over a cardinal's castoff

The problem with that wish is that Lofton won't come cheap. Look at it from a simple cost/benefit standpoint: It would cost the Cubs next to nothing to get Edmonds, who would probably sign at the league minimum. If he can turn back the clock a couple seasons (which happens quite often just about the time a player appears to washed up), the potential benefit could be significant- a decent hitter against RHP to platoon with Johnson.

If it doesn't work, Edmonds is released, Pie is recalled, and the Cubs are out a little cash. Big deal. This isn't a trading deadline blockbuster that everyone should be worked up about. As a Cubs fan, I think it's worth a shot. What the hell.

Cy Heavy · 05-13-2008, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by psychlone99

The problem with that wish is that Lofton won't come cheap. Look at it from a simple cost/benefit standpoint: It would cost the Cubs next to nothing to get Edmonds, who would probably sign at the league minimum. If he can turn back the clock a couple seasons (which happens quite often just about the time a player appears to washed up), the potential benefit could be significant- a decent hitter against RHP to platoon with Johnson.

If it doesn't work, Edmonds is released, Pie is recalled, and the Cubs are out a little cash. Big deal. This isn't a trading deadline blockbuster that everyone should be worked up about. As a Cubs fan, I think it's worth a shot. What the hell.

I don't pretend that Lofton is THE answer, but your cost/benefit analysis doesn't factor in the clubhouse cancer that Edmonds is/will be. This team is starting to gel and the last thing they need is some cast off from their main rival, known for being a $%!##& teammate throwing a turd in the locker room punch bowl.

I actually think they need to identify a solid third starting pitcher more than they need to identify another lefty bat.

travman23 · 05-13-2008, 12:01 PM

I'm fine with the move because it's low risk. If Edmonds sucks you just release him, he isn't going to break the bank, he's getting paid 8 mil regardless if he plays or not from his Padres contract and the Cubs are not on the hook for that tab if he clears waivers.

Pie is very frustrating to watch. I love his defense but he is completely lost at the plate. Personally if trading Pie in part of a deal to land a solid player I wouldn't mind the risk because that player could potentially make an impact this season when the Cubs have one of their best shots at ending this 100 year streak. I'm not getting to far ahead of myself, it's early but there is some nice talent on this team and another solid bat and a decent pitcher to add to the rotation and this club has patched up its holes. The offense has already shown when they are hot they are going to be tough to beat. I think they've only lost 1 game so far this season when they scored 4 or more runs.

psychlone99 · 05-13-2008, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Cy Heavy

I don't pretend that Lofton is THE answer, but your cost/benefit analysis doesn't factor in the clubhouse cancer that Edmonds is/will be. This team is starting to gel and the last thing they need is some cast off from their main rival, known for being a $%!##& teammate throwing a turd in the locker room punch bowl.

I actually think they need to identify a solid third starting pitcher more than they need to identify another lefty bat.

I agree with you on the pitching. That should be a priority, and will be at the trade deadline.

But show me some definitive proof that Edmonds is a clubhouse cancer. "Information" like this always gets blown out of proportion, and usually evolves out of some mundane event. I've been listening to The Score all morning, and D Lee and DeRosa have already voiced their approval of such a move. But they probably don't know anything about Edmonds and will be blindsided when he pollutes the clubhouse.