Mike Taylor Outplaying Eric Gordon

keepngoal · 11-07-2008, 10:11 AM

I am happy for Mike, he seems to have things put back together in his life. And this is why I have faith in McD's talent eye and recruiting.

-keep.

jj-cyclones · 11-07-2008, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

Kobe Bryant has been 1st Team NBA defense 6 Times! 2nd Team 2 Times! I wouldn't use him as an example. Maybe LeBron James

I think he was saying he plays D like Kobe, In SPURTS....(I still don't agree with the comment but I think thats what they ment)

Kobe is a great defense player.

Clones85' · 11-07-2008, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by jj-cyclones

I think he was saying he plays D like Kobe, In SPURTS....(I still don't agree with the comment but I think thats what they ment)

Kobe is a great defense player.

I took it as him saying that Kobe only plays defense in spurts when that is not the case. You don't get to be all NBA defense 3 years straight by only playing defense half the time

clintr · 11-07-2008, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by CyCy

After 5 games Taylor has a much better start than Clipper teammate and former lottery pick Eric Gordon.

Taylor 16 min/game 5.4 ppg
Gordon 5 min/game 2.0 ppg

Most surprising stat on Taylor 15 assists, 5 turnovers

To be honest, I haven't been a Eric Gordon fan since he dropped his commitment to Illinois to go play at Indiana with a coach that had questionable recruitments practices. He could have stood to have a few more years of basketball development in the NCAA and it shows with his play compared to a more veteran Taylor.

ajk4st8 · 11-07-2008, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by clintr

To be honest, I haven't been a Eric Gordon fan since he dropped his commitment to Illinois to go play at Indiana with a coach that had questionable recruitments practices. He could have stood to have a few more years of basketball development in the NCAA and it shows with his play compared to a more veteran Taylor.

At Iowa State it was pretty much the first time Mike played PG. Not a shock he is picking it up well.

Clearly the best ISU basketball talent in a LONG time.

Watching him, Wes, Lucca, Brackins all on the floor at the same time would have been fun.

BurgundyClone · 11-07-2008, 02:33 PM

Ditto the Kobe -I think LeBron is the better comparison, he doesn't play as much D. Kobe is tenacious on both ends pretty consistently -especially in the Olympics this year...

joefrog · 11-07-2008, 02:44 PM

Taylor was an enigma. One night you would be cheering him, the next night yelling at him. He had talent though, and man was he a competitor. Glad he is doing well. I never saw that Gordon guy as anything all that special. I guess it is just me.

On the other thing, is Kobe the most complete player in the NBA today? Maybe Tim Duncan is the next best. He seems to be able to score, defend, and rebound very well.

CycloneWarrior · 11-07-2008, 02:47 PM

i remember eric gordon was on the scout list of people we were recruiting really hard for a long time, lol, that just goes to show you scout is garbage

snowcraig2.0 · 11-07-2008, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by clones_jer

what are you smoking? Kobe is the man on defense, one of the toughest defenders in the NBA. He's gotten all kinds of awards for it.

Edit: Clones85 beat me to the punch

Not smoking anything. I never said Kobe wasn't a good defender. But, look what he did in the Olympics when he didn't have to do all the scoring. His man was lucky to get a shot off. My point was that when you have to carry the offense, your defense struggles.

Clones85' · 11-07-2008, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0

Not smoking anything. I never said Kobe wasn't a good defender. But, look what he did in the Olympics when he didn't have to do all the scoring. His man was lucky to get a shot off. My point was that when you have to carry the offense, your defense struggles.

But his doesn't. He has been 1st Team NBA defense 3 years running. 6 times in his career.

snowcraig2.0 · 11-07-2008, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

But his doesn't. He has been 1st Team NBA defense 3 years running. 6 times in his career.

Relative to the level he can play at on defense, it does.

Here, maybe this will more clearly illustrate my point:

on a scale of 1 to 100.

When carrying the offense, Kobe is a 90 defender, when he doesn't have to carry the offense he is a 99 defender.

When carrying the offense, Mike T is a 70 defender, when he doesn't have to carry the offense he is a 85 defender.

shildreth · 11-07-2008, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by mplscyclone

Must not have seen much of Fizer....

Originally Posted by flynnhicks03

Or Stinson.

or Fa la la la la Lafester Rhodes...

BryceC · 11-07-2008, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by joefrog

On the other thing, is Kobe the most complete player in the NBA today? Maybe Tim Duncan is the next best. He seems to be able to score, defend, and rebound very well.

I'd say LeBron is up there too - Kobe is a better defender but LeBron is better at setting up teammates.

wheels686 · 11-07-2008, 03:42 PM

Not that this matters much, but Gordon grew up a indiana fan and would have committed to them much earlier had davis not been the head coach. When sampson took over gordon got what he wanted all along which was to play for indiana,

CRcyclone6 · 11-07-2008, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by shildreth

or Fa la la la la Lafester Rhodes...

or Justus Thigpen vs Okie St. There have been lots of single game hotness.