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Old 11-13-2008, 09:24 PM   #31
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Nice to see the Cubs addressing their pitching needs. I told many people at the start of last year that they wouldn't go far b/c their starters really don't go past 7 innings very often (Yes I am aware that Big Z and Lilly did a few times) and there middle relief wasn't exactly great. I think Gregg will help fill in a gap and then if they can figure out a way to get Peavy they could be set up for another nice run that leaves me saying "There's always next year" again come October.
Pitching was not the problem for the Cubs failure in the playoffs. It was poor hitting and a left-handed power hitter should be high on Hendry's list for the winter. You can never have too many quality pitchers and I admit I don't know much about Gregg,but he can't hurt. He may help setup Marmol or Wood. I think Wood will be gone, however.

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Old 11-13-2008, 09:35 PM   #32
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Wood is gone.

ESPN - Cubs: Kerry Wood won't be back after trade for Kevin Gregg
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:53 PM   #33
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Wow... if KW goes that would be sad... but I understand.

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Old 11-13-2008, 11:02 PM   #34
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Cubs are also trying to go after Raul Ibanez from the Mariners. DeRosa would probably end up playing more second base. That is a stellar line up with Soriano leading off, Theriot, Lee, Ramirez, Ibanez, Soto, DeRosa, Fukudome
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:13 PM   #35
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Gregg may be trade bait, and Marmol would be the likely closer I think if Wood leaves.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:27 PM   #36
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Wood is going to look pretty strange in a Cardinals uniform...

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Old 11-13-2008, 11:33 PM   #37
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I'm sure that's the plan. I'm sad to seek Woods go, but a 3 or 4 year contract is probably not a good investment at this point in his career. We did that with Sammy Sosa and got burned.
Woods? Are you serious? What kind of cub fan are you? It's Wood! Not Woods, he plays golf.

This sucks. Kevin Gregg is lousy. He better be in a middle relief role. What a lousy day. I hope Kerry Wood signs with a good team in the AL.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:34 PM   #38
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Wood is going to look pretty strange in a Cardinals uniform...
No, Fuentes is going to be in STL. The cards can't afford to give Wood the contract he wants and still have money for their 856 other needs.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:53 PM   #39
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i have loved kerry wood ever since hes been a cub, but i would hate him for the rest of my life if he was in a cardinal uniform


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Old 11-14-2008, 12:02 AM   #40
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No, Fuentes is going to be in STL. The cards can't afford to give Wood the contract he wants and still have money for their 856 other needs.
and by 856 you mean 1 need. St. Louis could've easily been a playoff team without all the blown saves. Their O and D is perfectly fine where it is. So is their starting pitching. All they need is to get healthy and get some pitcher(s) who can close a damn game. Izzy just didn't have it this year and no one stepped up there. I'll take 10 wins over .500 as a rebuilding season...Looking forward to next summer.



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Old 11-14-2008, 09:03 AM   #41
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and by 856 you mean 1 need. St. Louis could've easily been a playoff team without all the blown saves. Their O and D is perfectly fine where it is. So is their starting pitching. All they need is to get healthy and get some pitcher(s) who can close a damn game. Izzy just didn't have it this year and no one stepped up there. I'll take 10 wins over .500 as a rebuilding season...Looking forward to next summer.
If you think the cardinals only have 1 need you are crazy. Look at the OF, the ENTIRE bullpen, and look at you SS.

Ryan Ludwick will actually match his numbers from this past year (yeah right!), Ankiel started to rapidly decline in August/September, and Skip Schumaker is well, Skip Schumaker. Another year of Cesar Izturis may force many cardinals fans into heavy drinking.

Nobody in the cardinals starting rotation scares me at all. Bring them all back.
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:08 AM   #42
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Fuentes is going to cost just as much as Wood if not more. So if the Cards aren't going to get Wood because of money, then they won't get Fuentes as well.
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:10 AM   #43
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and by 856 you mean 1 need. St. Louis could've easily been a playoff team without all the blown saves. Their O and D is perfectly fine where it is. So is their starting pitching. All they need is to get healthy and get some pitcher(s) who can close a damn game. Izzy just didn't have it this year and no one stepped up there. I'll take 10 wins over .500 as a rebuilding season...Looking forward to next summer.
i'd have to disagree with you there man. yes they need bullpen help bigtime, but they also need 1 more big bat to help out ludwick and pujols, thats why they were trying for matt holliday. they also need 1 or 2 starters and at least one of those starters being a top of the rotation guy, because the cardinal starters were average at best last year.

thats why they finished third in the NL central


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Old 11-14-2008, 09:25 AM   #44
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I hate to see Wood leave as well, but I think its time to let him go if he wants a long term contract. With his history the Cubs can't sign him to a multiple year deal. Hopefully we'll get Demp back and he wasn't a 1 yr wonder as a starter. Put Marmol in the closing spot and give Jeff S a little bit of time as setup. I like the rotation even without Wood and then mid year try to pick someone up at the most needed spot whether it be starter, middle relief, setup, or closer. Pitching such a hard spot to predict. I really think its best to go after guys mid year after you see what they've done for a couple of months.
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:28 AM   #45
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i'd have to disagree with you there man. yes they need bullpen help bigtime, but they also need 1 more big bat to help out ludwick and pujols, thats why they were trying for matt holliday. they also need 1 or 2 starters and at least one of those starters being a top of the rotation guy, because the cardinal starters were average at best last year.

thats why they finished third in the NL central
Wait wait wait!!!! The cardinals finished in 4th place last year!
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