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11-24-2008, 05:48 PM
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#16 | | Bench Warmer
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Omaha
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I still don't want to see T Jack out there as much as I don't like Gus' play.
IMO the Vikings need to seriously scour the free agent market for a quarterback this off season. We're stuck with Gus in the short term but he is defintely not the long term solution. I'm not ready to give up on Jackson just yet, but he obviously needs time to develop if he is going to stand any sort of chance of being a viable option in the long term.
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11-24-2008, 06:33 PM
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#17 | | Starter
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Credits: 1,008,381 | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | | Originally Posted by Cyc1ones The 2009 Minnesota Vikings Starting Quarterback better not be either of these two guys. I can name seven guys who will be available who would be a major upgrade at qb next fall for the Vikes....in no specific order....
1. Kurt Warner
2. Derek Anderson
3. Donovan McNabb
4. Matt Cassel
5. Bryon Leftwich
6. Vince Young
7. Michael Vick I would take Donovan McNabb/Matt Cassel/Kurt Warner...I would rather have the qb's we have now than the other ones you mentioned...
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11-24-2008, 06:38 PM
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#18 | | Hall-Of-Famer
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago, IL
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If I were Kurt Warner, I would stay in Arizona unless they are pushing him out after this year. He is the MVP in my mind right now.
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11-24-2008, 07:16 PM
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#19 | | Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clive
Posts: 436
Credits: 1,021,008 | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | |
Does anyone remember the vikings game (Monday night game) last year where Bryant McKinnie introduced T-Jack as Tavaris "We can never understand you in the huddle" Jackson?
Says it all for me. Either the guy can't speak or was not educated in the slightest. I suspect some of both. Too bad to, because he is rather gifted athletically.
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Cyclonefanatic.com: You cannot get this good of an education in Iowa City.
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11-24-2008, 07:18 PM
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#20 | | All-Star
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Des Moines
Posts: 1,318
Credits: 2,338,182 Year: 2007 Degree: Political Science NFL: Vikings | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | |
I'm sick of Gus Ferrotte. He couldn't be any worse. That said, T-Jack isn't really any better.
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11-24-2008, 07:20 PM
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#21 | | Starter
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianola
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Credits: 1,399,051 NFL: Vikings MLB: Dodgers | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | |
NO TJACK
trade him for a 7th round draft pick its worth more
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11-24-2008, 07:26 PM
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#22 | | Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clive
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Credits: 1,021,008 | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | | Originally Posted by CycloneTony NO TJACK trade him for a 7th round draft pick its worth more Come on... we could at least get a few footballs out of the deal as well!!
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Cyclonefanatic.com: You cannot get this good of an education in Iowa City.
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11-24-2008, 07:39 PM
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#23 | | Bench Warmer
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Credits: 1,476,618 | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | |
until Gus goes down, stick with him I am not the biggest fan of T-Jack I think his vision looking over the field is not all that great. Also I am not impressed anymore on our coach as well, not playing AP?? what an idiot.
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11-26-2008, 01:27 AM
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#24 | | Walk On
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ames, IA
Posts: 182
Credits: 1,335,734 NFL: Vikings NBA: Jazz | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | |
I didn't think Jackson was given a chance this year. The play calling for him and Frerotte was completely different. They never allowed Jackson to throw the ball unless it was 3rd and long. He looked good in pre-season when they let him throw off play fakes and one first or second down. I realize it was only pre-season but it was still with the starting unit amd against first team defenses. Frerotte has been getting worse as the season's gone on. I liked him at first, but the last couple games he has been brutal. He has not been accurate lately.
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11-26-2008, 02:10 AM
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#25 | | Starter
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T-Jack was also coming off an injury. He himself won quite a few games last season.
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11-26-2008, 07:49 AM
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#26 | | Asst. Regional Manager
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ankeny
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Credits: 7,685 Year: 2007 Degree: Civil Engineering NFL: Vikings NBA: Timberwolves MLB: Twins | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | |
T-jack = NO finesse on his throws, throwing off balance, abandoning the throw to run for 1 yard too early, not realizing defenders put their hands up when he throws and much much more. Keep Gus in.
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11-26-2008, 08:27 AM
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#27 | | Bench Warmer
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Credits: 1,456,345 Year: 1997 NFL: Vikings | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | |
Gus is a career scrub who's best days were about 10 years ago. The Vikings have won in spite of him and with exception of the Houston game has palyed like a sloppy rookie. The Vikings have done everything wrong when it comes to the QB position. I for one blame Chilli, he kept preaching to T-Jack about ball security and then benches him because he is afaid to make mistakes? What Bullstuff. If Vishante Shianco dosn't drop a TD pass in game 1 vs the Packers I seriously doubt we would be having this discussion. T-jack has proven in the past that he can play the position. Last yeer he has a 3 game strech with a QB rating over 95.9. 2 games into this season when he was coming off a knee injury and his starting LT was suspended he get yanked because Chilli is feeling the heat. Chili threw him under the bus and now we as fans have to live with our "level headed vet" who happens to suck. If you look at some of the TDs and deep ball he has thrown it more a case of great catches then great throws.
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11-26-2008, 08:35 AM
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#28 | | Pro
Join Date: May 2008 Location: West Des Moines, IA
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Credits: 2,674,505 Year: 2005 Degree: Exercise Sports Science NFL: Vikings NBA: Cavaliers MLB: Yankees | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | |
T- Jack Career Stats
16 Games (Started 14)
Completes 58% of his passes
139.1 Y/G
11 TD
16 INT's
66.65 Career Passer Rating
Sacked 27 times for a loss of 107 yards
Fumbled 9 times lost 1
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11-26-2008, 08:36 AM
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#29 | | Pro
Join Date: May 2008 Location: West Des Moines, IA
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Credits: 2,674,505 Year: 2005 Degree: Exercise Sports Science NFL: Vikings NBA: Cavaliers MLB: Yankees | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | |
Compared to Matt Lienert (Who no one wants to start)
17 Games
71.2 QB Rating
188 YPG
13 TD
16 INT
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11-26-2008, 08:38 AM
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#30 | | All-Star
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 1,248
Credits: 1,226,429 Degree: MCRP, MPA NFL: Vikings NBA: Rockets MLB: Orioles | Re: Vikings Need to Make the switch back to t-jack? | |
I'm afraid we'd lose a step with TJax and as much as we arent going anywhere in the playoffs, I want to win the division. Gus has completely sucked however over the last several games and has done more harm than good.
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