Iowa Chops' Ryan Donally KO's a guy in Two Hits

**Broodwich** · 12-02-2008, 05:50 PM

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHZmQ_JMrTg]YouTube - 11-29-08 Ryan Donally vs. Zach Fitzgerald[/ame]

From the game against the Moose this past weekend.

**IcSyU** · 12-02-2008, 05:52 PM

Nice straight right...put him down pretty quick!

**clones26** · 12-02-2008, 05:55 PM

the best part is he did it to the other guy in front of his own fans.

**ISUAlum2002** · 12-02-2008, 06:13 PM

I might have to go to a Chops game soon.

**Broodwich** · 12-02-2008, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002

I might have to go to a Chops game soon.

I think it's painfully apparent to everyone on this board that I am a huge hockey fan. But I _hated_ the Iowa Stars. This is something completely different and special. They are BIG guys. They fight. They win. If you even have a passing interest in hockey, I would strongly encourage you to check them out.

**Aclone** · 12-02-2008, 06:24 PM

And this is supposed to be a good thing? Now you know why I don't watch the NHL.

**Broodwich** · 12-02-2008, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

And this is supposed to be a good thing? Now you know why I don't watch the NHL.

Fighting in hockey isn't just about random violence, it's about enforcement of fairplay and paying penance for cheap shots and dirty play. There are rules to fighting, and it's a part of the game for a reason.

**Aclone** · 12-02-2008, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Broodwich

Fighting in hockey isn't just about random violence, it's about enforcement of fairplay and paying penance for cheap shots and dirty play. There are rules to fighting, and it's a part of the game for a reason.

Yes, and it's also the reason that the NHL is by far the least
attended, and lowest paid of the four major professional sports.

Your argument is like saying that there are rules for a batter charging the mound--and bench clearing brawls are hurting baseball. All thuggery harms a sport.

i'm old enough to remember the Lake Placid Olympics. Now that was hockey as it should be played. Teamwork. Skill. And no fighting.

**ianoconnor** · 12-02-2008, 06:39 PM

It's definitely not THE reason that the NHL is the least popular... I don't even know if it is a contributing factor. If fighting were frowned upon, then why is the UFC so incredibly popular?

And usually in international play such as the Olympics fighting is a little more frowned upon.

**jdoggivjc** · 12-02-2008, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Yes, and it's also the reason that the NHL is by far the least
attended, and lowest paid of the four major professional sports.

Your argument is like saying that there are rules for a batter charging the mound--and bench clearing brawls are hurting baseball. All thuggery harms a sport.

i'm old enough to remember the Lake Placid Olympics. Now that was hockey as it should be played. Teamwork. Skill. And no fighting.

Wrong.

There is less violence per minute in a hockey game than there is in a football game (the vast majority of the 22 players on the field get hit in some fashion every single play, while only 3-4 players receive any kind of contact in any given minute during a hockey game), yet violence isn't a deterrent against people watching football.

Americans don't watch hockey for two reasons:

1. They associate it with Canadians, and Americans typically don't like them.

2. People who aren't familiar with the game, when they try to watch it on TV, aren't able to follow the puck. They assume if you can't follow the action on TV then you can't follow the action live at the rink, which is a gigantic fallacy.

**IcSyU** · 12-02-2008, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

People who aren't familiar with the game, when they try to watch it on TV, aren't able to follow the puck. They assume if you can't follow the action on TV then you can't follow the action live at the rink, which is a gigantic fallacy.

I really don't like watching hockey on TV but being there during a hockey game is awesome!

**Broodwich** · 12-02-2008, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Yes, and it's also the reason that the NHL is by far the least
attended, and lowest paid of the four major professional sports.

That's a fallacy. Do you know what sport has the average lowest salaries? The NFL.

And about attendance, read these:
NBA and NHL attendance - SportsBiz - Sports Business Commentary - Washington Times

NHL vs. NBA: Hoops fans meekly strike back at hockey's surge - Puck Daddy - NHL - Yahoo! Sports

While I respect your reasons for not appreciating professional hockey, I don't think fighting is the root of the problems with the NHL. I think much of it has to do with the lack of a TV contract and residual problems from the lockout.

**chuckd4735** · 12-02-2008, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Yes, and it's also the reason that the NHL is by far the least
attended, and lowest paid of the four major professional sports.

Your argument is like saying that there are rules for a batter charging the mound--and bench clearing brawls are hurting baseball. All thuggery harms a sport.

i'm old enough to remember the Lake Placid Olympics. Now that was hockey as it should be played. Teamwork. Skill. And no fighting.

This is hilarious (and ignorant).

**HGPuck** · 12-02-2008, 06:59 PM

IMHO by far the biggest reason hockey is less popular than some other sports is that it is not a good TV sport. There are a lot of reason for that but fighting isn't one of them. Some of them are difficulty seeing the puck, two intermissions, less scoring, and just generally harder to follow the action on TV. I'll agree with the others that have said there is a big difference between watching in person and on TV

**ISUKyro** · 12-02-2008, 06:59 PM

Who cares! If you like it watch for whatever reason you want to. If you don't want to don't. But why bother telling someone why they should or shouldn't like something???

Crap now I'm starting to tell people how to post..... yeah I know, I know - hypocritical. I'll leave the thread now.