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12-08-2008, 11:19 AM
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#1 | | Hall-Of-Famer
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Santo seeks long-awaited Hall berth | cubs.com: News
Anyone else here pulling for Ron Santo today? Results to be released at Noon today!
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12-08-2008, 11:32 AM
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#2 | | Rookie
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Frankly I'm not pulling for him. I don't think he should get in as a player. All of the sentiment for him getting in lately has come from his work as an announcer and because people feel bad for him due to his physical conditions. Based on what he did on the field, I say no way.
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12-08-2008, 01:52 PM
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#3 | | Addict
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He didn't make it.
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12-08-2008, 03:21 PM
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#4 | | Starter
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I think he belongs in.
Up till when he retired he was one of the top 5 guys to pay 3rd base ever.
Since then there have been so many good ones, that he gets lost.
The big knock against him was no MVP award (on mostly a lousy team) and no World Series wins.
The Hall of Fame needs someone was as well rounded as Santo was.
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12-08-2008, 09:31 PM
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#5 | | Addict
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12-08-2008, 09:33 PM
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#6 | | Addict
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Didn't his number of votes go down this year? How many chances has he had to get in now? I don't think it's ever going to happen.
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12-08-2008, 09:49 PM
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#7 | | All-Star
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It's the Hall of Fame. Not the Hall of Good.
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12-08-2008, 09:55 PM
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#8 | | Rookie
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he is a nice guy he belongs in the announcers wing that it
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12-08-2008, 10:01 PM
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#9 | | Hall-Of-Famer
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Originally Posted by michaelrr1  It's the Hall of Fame. Not the Hall of Good. Right here. I love Santo, but I don't think he is a HOF game. The numbers are not there, and I don't think he has much of a postseason resume to make up for that fact.
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59-67. 18-46. 1-20. 6-10. 4-12. 4-12. 4-12. 0-3. 0 postseason tournament invitations.
There is no arguing the hard facts. There they are. I have coached a team to as many wins in the Big12 tournament as Greg McDermott.
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12-08-2008, 10:08 PM
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#10 | | Pro
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Hes not in and doesnt deserve it really anyway. Ron can quit worrying about it and focus on the Cubbies next postseason collapse...
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Seriously, I can't even comment on the CF standards now? Really?
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12-08-2008, 10:21 PM
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#11 | | Addict
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Originally Posted by superdorf Okay... Did anyone actually read these links... If you did you may change your opinion... or just continue to be a Cub hater.
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12-08-2008, 10:51 PM
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#12 | | Walk On
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Santo was never that good. Barely better than average on mostly very poor teams.
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12-08-2008, 11:08 PM
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#13 | | Addict
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Originally Posted by cyson Santo was never that good. Barely better than average on mostly very poor teams. Seriously? Barely better than average... come on now... Isn't anyone gonna help me out here?
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12-08-2008, 11:20 PM
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#14 | | Rookie
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Originally Posted by superdorf Seriously? Barely better than average... come on now... Isn't anyone gonna help me out here? I'm not going to lobby either way for Santo since I know very little about him, but I'll help you out to the extent of saying I'm glad the people saying, "He didn't have the numbers," don't have ballots. The value of a player in baseball is often more than his numbers.
Unfortunately, the fact the best relief pitcher of our era (Rich Gossage) was only elected to the HOF last year after 16 ballots tells me many who do have balloting privileges are too lazy to research a player's career. Instead, they rely on a quick scan of his "numbers." Akin to what an average bar hack can study in about 10 minutes.
That tells me the HOF will be in some real trouble when the steroid era guys (and the era-of-inflated-save-guys) become Hall eligible.
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Dean Wormer was wrong. Fat, drunk and stupid was a great way to go through college (all five years of it).
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12-08-2008, 11:20 PM
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#15 | | Pro
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Originally Posted by cyson Santo was never that good. Barely better than average on mostly very poor teams. I don't agree with trying to say that he wasn't that good, but I have never considered him to be HOF good. It's the MLB HOF, not the Cubs 3B HOF. There's a big difference and I wouldn't even put him in the top half of the list of fellow candidates - none of whom were selected.
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