Crazy Cardinals fan

**XD40** · 04-17-2009, 11:18 PM

Talking Cubs.......thats how I roll

**superdorf** · 04-17-2009, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by XD40

The Cubs will win the central by 5-10 games. The cards pitching wont be able to hold it together, just like last year. Good pitching carries teams to the playoffs.

So someone other than the Cubs or Cardinals are going to win the division?

**TarHeelHawk** · 04-17-2009, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by XD40

Talking Cubs.......thats how I roll

Don't I know it. We should get into an argument, just for the hell of it.

**XD40** · 04-17-2009, 11:22 PM

lol should have seen that coming

**TarHeelHawk** · 04-17-2009, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by superdorf

So someone other than the Cubs or Cardinals are going to win the division?

The Reds have a good 1-2 with Cueto and Volquez, and a good line-up. But they also have toothpick chewing, armband wearing Dusty Baker as their manager, so.....

Did you know that Dusty played with Hank Aaron?

So to answer your question, I would say the Reds if it wasn't the Cubs/Cards. But the Cubs are going to win it.

**CyCrazy** · 04-17-2009, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by superdorf

Okay then... Let's start simply... Who will win the division?

Thanks for answering... Now... step away from the booze for the night.

never ..........but beating my head against the wall is starting to hurt

**XD40** · 04-17-2009, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk

Don't I know it. We should get into an argument, just for the hell of it.

Maybe this will get something....is it me or should Lou switch D Lee and Ramirez in the lineup? I just dont understand how you can explain taking away at bats from our best source of power and clutch hitting in A-Ram

**CyCrazy** · 04-17-2009, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by CYCRAZY

never ..........but beating my head against the wall is starting to hurt

dealing with cub fans is like riding the short bus everyday.....
same ole story different year

**XD40** · 04-17-2009, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk

The Reds have a good 1-2 with Cueto and Volquez, and a good line-up. But they also have toothpick chewing, armband wearing Dusty Baker as their manager, so.....

Did you know that Dusty played with Hank Aaron?

So to answer your question, I would say the Reds if it wasn't the Cubs/Cards. But the Cubs are going to win it.

The Reds will be good in 1 or 2 years if they can hold that pitching staff together....but Dusty's running things over there and we all know what he did to Wood and Prior in '03. Prior stills comes to wrigley in the off-season to find where his arm landed after it flew off in mid-pitch.

**TarHeelHawk** · 04-17-2009, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by XD40

Maybe this will get something....is it me or should Lou switch D Lee and Ramirez in the lineup? I just dont understand how you can explain taking away at bats from our best source of power and clutch hitting in A-Ram

Wouldn't Ramirez get more at bats hitting 4th than 3rd?. I can't imagine the difference is that big, numbers wise.

I would agree that Lee doesn't belong in the 3-hole, but where do you put him?

However, I can see Lou moving Ramirez back to clean-up with CAMB behind him, balance be damned.

**XD40** · 04-17-2009, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk

Wouldn't Ramirez get more at bats hitting 4th than 3rd?. I can't imagine the difference is that big, numbers wise.

I would agree that Lee doesn't belong in the 3-hole, but where do you put him?

However, I can see Lou moving Ramirez back to clean-up with CAMB behind him, balance be damned.

I put Lee 5th and Ramirez 3rd....Lee hit into 27 DP's last year, and his batting totals have declined every year since his monster '05. Ramirez is hitting his prime...and contrary to some he doesnt strike out all that much for a power hitter (Dunn)

**TarHeelHawk** · 04-17-2009, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by XD40

I put Lee 5th and Ramirez 3rd....Lee hit into 27 DP's last year, and his batting totals have declined every year since his monster '05. Ramirez is hitting his prime...and contrary to some he doesnt strike out all that much for a power hitter (Dunn)

Perhaps...but even with Lee having a horrible year last year - and Soriano missing 2 months, Kos-K free-falling the last 2 months - the Cubs still led the league in scoring by a wide margin.

With that, I'm hitting the hay. I have 2 alarm clocks that go off at 6 (or 430, you know, whenever), and then I got some yard work to do in the morning before it starts to rain.

**XD40** · 04-17-2009, 11:41 PM

PEASH!!!!

**superdorf** · 04-17-2009, 11:53 PM

I'm out too...I'm off to the parade in the morning. Keep the rain away!

**cycloneman003** · 04-18-2009, 12:00 AM

wow. crazy is sooooo bitter over this loss. get over it. the cubs have the better rotation and a deeper hitting lineup. it will take a miracle for the cards to win the division. cubs will win it by 10-ish. that simple. soto, ramirez, bradley have all been hurt in the early going, and harden/z/dempster havent been on top of their game yet.

its the cubs division. live with it.