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If you have DirecTV they will have the guy on Dan Patrick soon
And Iowa is one of those states. Woo ConE 380!Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
So if they fired him for "gambling" and even specified that in the documentation this guy has a legitimate beef and will easily win an unemployment claim since he wasn't gambling.Quote:
Originally Posted by cybsball20
Yes. The deal is this: The company agrees to pay you for work performed during prescribed hours. Additonally they supply you with equipment to do the work. In return, you work. Doing personal things or other than work on that equipment during work time is a basic breach of that agreement.Quote:
Originally Posted by clones26
Suppose you hire a plumber to do some work at your house and you find him having long conversations with his girlfriend. Are you going to let him bill you for those hours? Of course not.
I really don't see why this is a difficult concept to grasp. Another way to look at it is this: there are about 8 million people out there out of work, and you want to screw off on the job?
Does it matter whether they are paying the guy by the hour or salary? Is the guy being paid to surf the web and check on your fantasy teams, or is he being paid to do his job? Granted, I'm just as guilty for screwing around on the computer at work as much as anyone else, but bottom line is they're not providing you a computer and internet to surf the web all day, they're providing you with those things to get your job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by ericlambi
Depends. I'm a Federal employee, and while your example might be a little much, running any kind of pool or fantasy sports at the office, whether on government computers or not, whether on duty or not, if caught would get me into serious trouble. Hell, throwing $5 on the NCAA Tournament pool with co-workers while at the office is grounds for serious punishment if not outright dismissal, much less running one. This gets pounded into my head on a yearly basis through annual face-to-face ethics training. It just simply isn't tolerated for employees within the Federal government.Quote:
Originally Posted by cybsball20
While I shouldn't be on CF while I'm at work (and with the exception of my BlackBerry, I haven't been since I started my new job a month ago), I won't even mess with CyBookie while on a government computer. I refuse to even give them the appearance of that kind of impropriety.
Which is an interesting ruling, considering paying into a fantasy football league could meet the legal definition of gambling, which is a three part law of 1. Paying money 2. to take a risk 3. to win a prize. If all three parts aren't there, it's not gambling.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnstoncy
In the case of a paid fantasy league, the entrance fee is paying money, the risk is whether you whether you make money, break even, or lose money, and the prize is what you end up taking home at the end of the day.
"Pettigrew, who was the commissioner of his league, knew Fidelity had a policy against playing fantasy football at the office. "
says it all....
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Originally Posted by Dave19642006
Except he wasn't playing AT THE OFFICE, he was playing with people FROM the office.
OK, I saw the guy interviewed on ESPN this afternoon. His story (paraphrased): He was in a fantasy league with people from work. There is a policy at Fidelity against participating but everyone else was doing it. There were several such leagues and people of all levels (including his management chain) participated. He was participating on company time. All access to the sites were blocked from work so everyone checked scores, made roster changes and trades, etc. from their home computers on their own time. His name was given by someone else under investigation. When investigating him, they uncovered two incoming instant messages. No instant messages originated by him or any emails of any kind were uncovered. Three others were warned but he was fired. He claims to have been one of their top performers.
so there was a snitch that was going to fall and he wanted to take more people .....what a ***
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Originally Posted by cybsball20
Don't know what your definition of office participation is, but that certainly sounds like it to me.Quote:
Still, on Oct. 20, Fidelity officials investigated the matter after they intercepted e-mails exchanged in a different office league. After questioning the commissioner of that league, they discovered Pettigrew also ran an office league. Four league commissioners lost their jobs at Fidelity.
Pettigrew, though, said he never sent any fantasy football e-mails at work or used his work e-mail address. But the investigators found two instant messages that had fantasy-football-related material.
"One of my buddies sent me something about how bad Trent Edwards was playing or something like that," Pettigrew said. "So they called me in and talked to me for about 90 minutes on everything I ever knew about fantasy football. They interrogated me as though I was some sort of international gambling kingpin. Then they released me for the day, and I was like, 'OK.’ I never thought they’d fire me for this, but, the next day, I get the call saying I had been terminated."