The chicago Bulls will be fine

**clonefreek** · 07-09-2010, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

Maybe LeBron realizes this, and thats why he went to Miami with Wade. I get that you don't like LeBron but I don't get why you think its better to be good for several years than to win a title even if that means you have to let guys walk and you take a step back the following season? The goal in any sport is to win a title not just be close.

Why take a step back when you dont need to? Look at oklahoma city right now, the have Kevin durant and around him is the youngest team in the nba. They had Cap space and didnt go out and try and sign anyone because they are building their team to make a run at several rings not just one or 2 but several. Mark my words its going to be thunder bulls finals in a couple of years.

**CYphyllis** · 07-09-2010, 09:40 AM

Fine? Not quite. As much as I love the Bulls the reality is that they aren't going to get passed the Heat in the playoffs and I also doubt they would get by the Magic. Boozer is a solid pickup but to say a guy like Korver or Reddick will get them over the hump is just ridiculous.

**CYphyllis** · 07-09-2010, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by clonefreek

Why take a step back when you dont need to? Look at oklahoma city right now, the have Kevin durant and around him is the youngest team in the nba. They had Cap space and didnt go out and try and sign anyone because they are building their team to make a run at several rings not just one or 2 but several. Mark my words its going to be thunder bulls finals in a couple of years.

OKC has Sam Presti who is light years ahead of any other GM in the league.

**MNCyGuy** · 07-09-2010, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by clonefreek

Why take a step back when you dont need to? Look at oklahoma city right now, the have Kevin durant and around him is the youngest team in the nba. They had Cap space and didnt go out and try and sign anyone because they are building their team to make a run at several rings not just one or 2 but several. Mark my words its going to be thunder bulls finals in a couple of years.

I really hope that the Thunder are able to keep all their pieces in place to make that happen, but that require a lot of players and management to go against the NBA norm. It would be really sweet to see a small market team develop and retain their own stars and role players and become a perennial contender.

**CyJack13** · 07-09-2010, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by clonefreek

Why take a step back when you dont need to? Look at oklahoma city right now, the have Kevin durant and around him is the youngest team in the nba. They had Cap space and didnt go out and try and sign anyone because they are building their team to make a run at several rings not just one or 2 but several. Mark my words its going to be thunder bulls finals in a couple of years.

Who's to say Westbrook sticks around when his deal is up? He's an LA kid, maybe he goes to the Lakers or Clips for more money. They're is a huge gap between being a good team like the Thunder are and winning a title, just ask LeBron. When you have a chance at a title you have to take it, not sit back and hope every thing goes according to your plan.

**clonefreek** · 07-09-2010, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by CYphyllis

Fine? Not quite. As much as I love the Bulls the reality is that they aren't going to get passed the Heat in the playoffs and I also doubt they would get by the Magic. Boozer is a solid pickup but to say a guy like Korver or Reddick will get them over the hump is just ridiculous.

lol you obviously dont have much basketball. The bulls right now can make the playoffs, they are missing 2 things. Low post scoring, and shooting, now they have solved the low post scoring issue so they are going after shooters. which would fill the other void. Adding a couple of shooters would complete them as a team, so when you play as a whole team you have a damn good chance to beat anybody in the league. Im not saying lebron wouldnt of helped this team i am just saying they didnt necessarily need him. This team adds a couple of shooters and im thinking they will be solid and with the defensive mind that the new coach has i wouldnt doubt the bulls this season, not one bit. You have to get past that he is the one of the best players in the league and actually look at what your team needs to win. they dont really need a ball hog superstar they can win just as many games with a solid shooter or 2

**CyJack13** · 07-09-2010, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by CYphyllis

Fine? Not quite. As much as I love the Bulls the reality is that they aren't going to get passed the Heat in the playoffs and I also doubt they would get by the Magic. Boozer is a solid pickup but to say a guy like Korver or Reddick will get them over the hump is just ridiculous.

I don't think they will get by either of those teams, but I think their off season can still be called a success. They got rid of a bad contract in Hinrich, they got a big time player in Boozer who will nicely compliment Noah. They are a better team now then they were last season and they are still in good shape cap wise.

**clonefreek** · 07-09-2010, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

Who's to say Westbrook sticks around when his deal is up? He's an LA kid, maybe he goes to the Lakers or Clips for more money. They're is a huge gap between being a good team like the Thunder are and winning a title, just ask LeBron. When you have a chance at a title you have to take it, not sit back and hope every thing goes according to your plan.

So is miami going to get by the lakers? i dont really think they will. i mean match up wise the lakers match up pretty damn well.

**MNCyGuy** · 07-09-2010, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by clonefreek

lol you obviously dont have much basketball. The bulls right now can make the playoffs, they are missing 2 things. Low post scoring, and shooting, now they have solved the low post scoring issue so they are going after shooters. which would fill the other void. Adding a couple of shooters would complete them as a team, so when you play as a whole team you have a damn good chance to beat anybody in the league. Im not saying lebron wouldnt of helped this team i am just saying they didnt necessarily need him. This team adds a couple of shooters and im thinking they will be solid and with the defensive mind that the new coach has i wouldnt doubt the bulls this season, not one bit. You have to get past that he is the one of the best players in the league and actually look at what your team needs to win. they dont really need a ball hog superstar they can win just as many games with a solid shooter or 2

I think they could make a run in the same mold as the Pistons championship team. No real superstars (maybe Rose), but just an extremely solid top-to-bottom team, with no outstanding weaknesses and great chemistry.

**CYphyllis** · 07-09-2010, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by clonefreek

lol you obviously dont have much basketball. The bulls right now can make the playoffs, they are missing 2 things. Low post scoring, and shooting, now they have solved the low post scoring issue so they are going after shooters. which would fill the other void. Adding a couple of shooters would complete them as a team, so when you play as a whole team you have a damn good chance to beat anybody in the league. Im not saying lebron wouldnt of helped this team i am just saying they didnt necessarily need him. This team adds a couple of shooters and im thinking they will be solid and with the defensive mind that the new coach has i wouldnt doubt the bulls this season, not one bit. You have to get past that he is the one of the best players in the league and actually look at what your team needs to win. they dont really need a ball hog superstar they can win just as many games with a solid shooter or 2

Here is an idea, name me one team that has won a championship in the last thirty years (Excluding the Pistons in 2004) without a superstar caliber player.

**clonefreek** · 07-09-2010, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by MNCyGuy

I think they could make a run in the same mold as the Pistons championship team. No real superstars (maybe Rose), but just an extremely solid top-to-bottom team, with no outstanding weaknesses and great chemistry.

Thats the mindset i have, they are just solid at every position and thats what the bulls are trying to do. Solid guard solid shooting solid big men and great defense

**Neckbeard** · 07-09-2010, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by clonefreek

Thats the mindset i have, they are just solid at every position and thats what the bulls are trying to do. Solid guard solid shooting solid big men and great defense

That team won b/c the team with the superstars were a dysfunctional disaster. If Kobe and Shaq could get along, if Karl Malone hadn't creeped out Kobe's wife, if Gary Payton wasn't nuts that Pistons team never happens.

**clonefreek** · 07-09-2010, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by CYphyllis

Here is an idea, name me one team that has won a championship in the last thirty years (Excluding the Pistons in 2004) without a superstar caliber player.

the 1989-1990 detroit pistons, 1988-1989 pistons, 75 warriors

**CYphyllis** · 07-09-2010, 09:55 AM

The scenarios you are putting up are all fine for a regular season run, but we all know the NBA is completely different come playoff time. The current Bulls team in a best of 7 format will not have a chance against star laden teams. It sucks, but reality usually does.

Now I know you are going to say that Rose is of superstar caliber, which he very possibly could develop into one, but the last team that won a championship with the PG as their top player would be the '90 pistons with Isiah Thomas (And also Joe Dumars who is in the HOF, but really, who's counting).