White Sox win waiver claim of Manny Ramirez

**mwitt** · 08-27-2010, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by jtd9046

The only point was to that poster was that if he is counting on a Manny resurgence simply on the fact that he's joining a pennant race is foolish.

1. No matter how many teams they have to pass, the Dodgers are in a race. They've gained 3-4 games on 3 of those teams this week alone, and play the other in Colorado this weekend.

2. I highly doubt an AL Central race would provide that motivation.

An NL West race provided plenty of motivation when he was traded to LA. And why the talk about motivation, anyway? The guy's OPS could drop 100 points in a Sox uniform, and he's still an upgrade.

**cyfanatic** · 08-27-2010, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by jtd9046

2. I highly doubt an AL Central race would provide that motivation.

Manny's motivation (regardless of who he is playing for) will come from the fact that he is a free agent at the end of the season! Want another big payday? Produce!

**mwitt** · 08-27-2010, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by cyfanatic

I was thinking about next year's rotation...I just don't really believe that the rotation will be Buerhle, Peavy, Danks, Floyd and Jackson. I would love it...but I gotta believe that KW will try to spin one of them for a hitter that can play the OF! Maybe a RF? CQ is getting old...can get as hot as anyone in baseball...but when cold...absolutely kills us! Swings at everything like he is aiming to hit the ball into Lake Michigan! Back to my point...while I hope that is our starting rotation...just not sure we can do it money-wise?

Carlos Quentin is not old. He's just entering his prime years and has not even reached free agency yet.

**cyfanatic** · 08-27-2010, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by mwitt

An NL West race provided plenty of motivation when he was traded to LA. And why the talk about motivation, anyway? The guy's OPS could drop 100 points in a Sox uniform, and he's still an upgrade.

Bingo!

**cyfanatic** · 08-27-2010, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by mwitt

Carlos Quentin is not old. He's just entering his prime years and has not even reached free agency yet.

Oops...I meant his performance...not his biological age. My bad...should have been more clear. His act is getting "old"! One of those guys that has ALL the tools...but is just too inconsistent and drives me crazy!

**jtd9046** · 08-27-2010, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by mwitt

An NL West race provided plenty of motivation when he was traded to LA. And why the talk about motivation, anyway? The guy's OPS could drop 100 points in a Sox uniform, and he's still an upgrade.

Los Angeles is much different than the Southside.

Anyway... keep ignoring my original post Sox fans, I already stated I don't think the Sox have anything to lose if they want to blow the prospect or cash.

**Clones85'** · 08-27-2010, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by jtd9046

The difference between the Dodgers (5 back) and the White Sox (3.5) in their races is only 1.5 games. He's already on a contender.

Anywho, not surprised at the Sox. Can't hurt them at this point, just comes down to is it worth it to trade away what they have to give up or eat the $4 million if that's what comes of it.

Sox are only trailing one team. Dodgers are trailing how many teams? 4? HUGE difference

It's like a golfer being in 2nd place 3 strokes behind the leader. Easy to make up. But what if he is in 10th place 3 strokes behind? A little more competition.

**mwitt** · 08-27-2010, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by jtd9046

Los Angeles is much different than the Southside.

Anyway... keep ignoring my original post Sox fans, I already stated I don't think the Sox have anything to lose if they want to blow the prospect or cash.

No one is ignoring. It was just not addressed because it was common sense. The other part of your post was addressed because it was the opposite of common sense.

**cyfanatic** · 08-27-2010, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by jtd9046

Los Angeles is much different than the Southside.

Anyway... keep ignoring my original post Sox fans, I already stated I don't think the Sox have anything to lose if they want to blow the prospect or cash.

Did the rules change around here? We have to reply to every post on the board? Jeez...this is going to become more time-consuming than it already is!

And LA being different than the Southside...yeah...what do you mean? Very different for sure...but am I supposed to address that as well?

**jdoggivjc** · 08-27-2010, 07:12 PM

Hope the Sox have an adequate supply of women's fertility drugs on hand...

**IcSyU** · 08-27-2010, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by cyfanatic

I feel the exact same way! Freddy could give up 10 tonight...now that I said that he will probably throw a shutout! LOL! Also...too bad we didn't have Manny tonight...that would spiced up an already important series!

Glad Frank is getting his due this weekend! He deserves it!

10 still won't lose it. AJ Burnett is the worst pitcher in the American League. There are high school teams he'd get lit up by.

**CYKOFAN** · 08-27-2010, 09:06 PM

Don't know if it's been mentioned but to get Manny the Sox also have to agree to at least a one year deal for next year. Manny is already looking ahead to being a d.h. and as a Dodger fan I hope the Sox take him and we get a decent prospect in return. Manny doesn't want to play in the outfield and being a d.h. just might light a fire under him and he could have another couple of good years left.

**dabears32** · 08-27-2010, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by CYKOFAN

Don't know if it's been mentioned but to get Manny the Sox also have to agree to at least a one year deal for next year.

According to most sources this is false.

**gocubs2118** · 08-27-2010, 09:17 PM

Ya, I've heard Manny has backed off the contract extension demand as well.

**CYKOFAN** · 08-27-2010, 09:24 PM

dabears32- You may be right but the last I saw on the Dodger website was that Manny was requiring a one year contract with the acquiring team, but maybe he's dropped that now.