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I don't see anyone on here saying that Gene has been perfect, because obviously, there have been some bad coaching moments from this staff.


But it looks like you answered my question, and 18...

So you are saying that it is too early, and I can grant you that.

But it is also too early to think that this group would be competing for bowls as well. Gene took over a program 4 plays from...

Absolutely, and don't get me wrong, I have had many times during the last two seasons where I was yelling at the TV in the bar because I was dumbfounded by what he was doing. The Iowa game, and the...

That's interesting, and you are right WR and CB are positions of need.

You are saying that you are not seeing any difference in recruiting between Mac and Gene, I don't know that I agree with...

Forgive me for not knowing the specifics. The point is, that we are the least talented team in the Big 12. I didn't say untalented, but we are behind the curve when it comes to the conference we...

Why? So we can divert resources from fertile areas where they know the coaches, to chasing our tails and watching all of the best Iowa kids, who all grew up Hawk fans, tell us no for Iowa.

Yeah,...

Still avoiding the real question here, well that little truth doesn't fit in with your bias against Gene Chizik.

We wouldn't want to let a little thing like FACTS get in the way of a good...

Sorry, just looking to get one simple question answered, and they won't do it, but they want to argue, and I am bored at work.:yes:

So that is FIVE in TWELVE years, you're right Monty, he cleaned up. I thought you were just trying to stir the pot, but you may actually be as clueless as you appear.

We were Meyer's only offer. ...

By the way, you are acting like a 13 year old.

You are losing this argument publicly, maybe you and Monty, FBCurt, etc all form a private group. Then you can talk all you want about what a bad...

still Chizik only, huh? I guess candor is something that is completely, completely beyond you.

Iowa football produces 5 players a year on average that can go to a BCS school, and contribute in a...

Iowa State rarely wins recruiting battles with Iowa for kids they truly want. They haven't since Earle Bruce patrolled the sidelines.

Mac, didn't win very many battles for kids that Hayden, or...

Ahh being critical of Gene again. You know what??? Those Baylor players, that exposed our lack of team speed, and explosiveness, were 2 and 3 star players from Texas.

You are looking for reasons...

Wow, this is unbelievable. 18 games is all he gets to clean up the mess of a program devoid of talent when he took over, and has only had 1 1/2 recruiting classes to fix it at 25 players a pop.
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Morriss was fired because he was a poor coach. He was fired because he had athletic talent, and completely misused it.

Iowa State, no matter how YOU want to spin it (interesting choice of words...

Yes, Baylor and us brought up the bottom of the rankings. The difference, and you saw it the other night, was that they spent the past few years recruiting ATHLETES. Gene has just started that...

Again a shot at Gene, because he didn't recruit well in Iowa this time. Give it up, we are the least talented team in the conference, Gene has been here for one full recruiting cycle, you have four...

You wrote all of that, yet you still didn't answer the original question.

You are a big fan of Mac, as am I, but to not even be able to say, "wow he left the cupboard bare," shows a serious lack...

You are right, I wasn't trying to bash Petey, I was just sharing a humorous (I thought anyway) story of how we survived watching Iowa State play last year.


KG, you are right, DG really wasn't...

That is very true.

Again waiting for TM and KN to discuss the reasons for the lack of talent in the program.

Sorry to everyone else, just tired of their bash Gene for something he had no...