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  1. clonehenge

    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Good article on McCarthy. https://theathletic.com/5450390/2024/04/26/jj-mccarthy-vikings-nfl-draft-2024/
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Field and Mel were talking up Rodriguez so who knows. Sounds like he's got a good motor. They'd better sign Risner now. Although it seems like their lack of getting a G in the draft might mean they're planning to start Brandel. Don't really understand the kicker pick. Seems like they could've...
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    If you're lamenting the loss of the 4th and 5th round picks...a little consolation...
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    It was my understanding that there would be no math :) Yeah, I didn't factor the Texans trade in. But even with the value difference in that, it only becomes an estimated high 3rd rounder. Agree with Risner on speed dial and throw in Xavien Howard on that as well.
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    I wasn't really trying to prove any kind of point by posting that, it was more informational than anything. And I didn't think the differences were all that egregious. I've seen people on Twitter saying with all the trades the Vikings did they essentially lost a mid 1st round pick or gave up 3...
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    So according to the Rich Hill Draft Value Chart... Trade with Jets: 10 = 369, 203 = 5 Total = 374. 11 = 358, 129 = 18, 157 = 11 Total = 387 Trade with Jags: 17 = 296 23 = 245 167 = 9 2025 3rd (mid-round) = 50 2025 4th (mid-round) = 23 Total = 327 Who...
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Price for Turner was maybe a little steep. But he was a projected top 10 pick that most mocks had going to Atlanta at 8...thanks Atlanta for taking Penix! And I think he'll come in with a chip on his shoulder because he dropped out of the top 10. Plus, he's a Bama player...SEC Defensive Player...
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    They should get a compensatory pick next year (hopefully a 3rd) for losing Cousins.
  9. clonehenge

    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Grab your popcorn!
  10. clonehenge

    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    What about taking Daniel Carlson in the 5th round and then cutting him after 2 games because he missed 3 FGs?
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Draft day!
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Listening to PA's show from yesterday with Goessling and PA brought up a good point about Penix. Since he's left handed does that mean you shift your tackles? Otherwise, O'Neil would be the new "left" tackle and Darrisaw wouldn't be able to push for LT money with his new contract. Goessling...
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    I think we're all traumatized from past Vikings' drafts. For every Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson or Justin Jefferson there's a plethera of Christian Ponders or Troy Williamsons. And you could argue Moss, Peterson and Jefferson fell into their laps so it isn't like they did anything special to...
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Hembo from ESPN broke down 1st round picks by hit rate. He considered "hit rate" to be if the player signed a second contract with the same team. QB was 5th highest hit rate. Also, I posted this awhile back about rookie salaries vs veteran salaries and QB had the largest disparity so it made...
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Don't love this if it's true...what's a haul?
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    So from what I've heard (tv/radio) and read, it's sounding like it's going to be hard for the Vikings to trade up... 3 - Pats want too much 4 - Cards want one of the top 3 WRs and if they trade back to 11 they'll miss out (unless they can trade back up, which they did last year) 5 - Chargers...
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Days until the draft!
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Yeah, was just going to post this...dammit.
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    Regarding the Atlanta tampering punishment (supposed to be decided this week), from Kevin Seifert's ESPN article the other day...sounds like a pick swap isn't necessarily a possibility but Atlanta could be stripped of a pick. Losing their 1st rounder would move the Vikes up a pick-- Sources...
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    ***2024 Minnesota Vikings***

    To be fair, DT and Edge have just as much 1st round bust potential...as does every position. No guarantee to get any Pro Bowl players in the 1st round. A little sampling of Vikes' 1st round picks...lots of ickiness in this, and doesn't show guys like Shariff Floyd or Erasmus James
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