Mod's without Humor

Jeremy · 01-30-2007, 09:54 PM

Since we all have different tastes in humor, I'm going to give a quick answer to the original question, no seriously.

One thing everybody needs to remember is that moderators are fans just like anybody else. We try our hardest not to let our own opinions get in the way of judging if content is appropriate or not. NOW, I'm not going to say it never has, let's be honest, we know it has. BUT, we do our best not to let it and that is something we all work on every day we're on here. We haven't been perfect in choosing what and when to moderate, but we do our best.

If it weren't for the moderators having stepped up over the past year to help keep things running smoothly, we wouldn't have a place at all. So I guess all I ask is for everybody to understand that we're all humans and we all have different tolerant levels. I may be more liberal on threads than some and some will be more liberal than me. We have our set guidelines but we're just humans.

So to answer your question, we do our best and hopefully in the end that is more than good enough. We'll not always make everybody happen all the time, but again, we do our best:)

GoShow97 · 01-30-2007, 09:59 PM

Wow, looks like my post got deleted. But yes a certain mod feels seemingly compelled to take action with regards to discussions that apparently do not agree with his own. Rather insecure I think.

Geeeez, I hope this post does not get deleted.

Perhaps we could have a guideline of what gets deleted and what does not.

chuckd4735 · 01-30-2007, 10:01 PM

Acctually, I have alot of respect for every moderator on this board, except for one. I think everyone in here that is complaing knows who I am talking about, and I also think that moderator knows who I am talking about.

Jeremy · 01-30-2007, 10:07 PM

One of the reasons threads are closed, and pretty much the only reason, are because they take a turn towards being attacks on members or moderators. This thread for instance is at a fork in the road. Will it stay on the path of helpful criticism and debate or will it turn towards personal attacks on individual moderators? That's the type of fork that decides a thread's fate. We close very few topics but those that turn personal really leave us no choice.

There have been differences between users and moderators at one point or another, that's where we learn from the situations though. I know of differences between users and mods in the past and I think everybody needs to give a second chance to those they have differences with. I know we all try to improve how we handle things and hopefully it's evident over time.

guitarchitect7 · 01-30-2007, 10:18 PM

This is a touchy subject to comment on. Though we are all mods, we still have different opinions as well. We have been trying to get better about discussing which threads should be closed or edited as a group instead of individual efforts. Sometimes though that becomes tough and a decision may be made based on that individuals opinion on that matter.

Now I have not read the thread that is being discussed, so I can't comment directly on that situation. What I can say is please respect our decisions just as much as you want us to respect yours with the choices of posts that you make. I have been to other boards, and do feel that CF is much more liberal when it comes to topics. Many hound you for just making a duplicate or similiar topic thread that has already been created before. Some have specific outline on how they prefer posts to appear. Now we have laid out rules that we hope all members respect; and if you have an issue with them, you need to contact the apporiate members privately to discuss them.

I respect your concern as I am sure others mods do as well. But please understand that there may be descisions made that you may not agree with. And as much as it may irritate you or others, it may just be best to move past it all together.

clones_jer · 01-30-2007, 10:18 PM

there would be some really ironical humor is someone would shut this thread down - I promise I will laugh, someone get a set and shut this pucker down!

Jeremy · 01-30-2007, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by clones_jer

there would be some really ironical humor is someone would shut this thread down - I promise I will laugh, someone get a set and shut this pucker down!

Now see that wouldn't be very liberal of us. After all, aren't we all liberals here :)

Jeremy · 01-30-2007, 10:23 PM

Nevermind, I don't want to see where a political debate could end up:)

cyputz · 01-30-2007, 10:28 PM

Come on girls and guys. I really enjoy the readings on this site. Oftern controversial, often hype. But I do enjoy the site.

Let's be realistic about sources, comments, moderators and posters. Initially we all policed ourselves in support of Jeremy....now we have been bashing one and all.

Go Cyclones!!

darts180 · 01-30-2007, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Jeremy

One of the reasons threads are closed, and pretty much the only reason, are because they take a turn towards being attacks on members or moderators. This thread for instance is at a fork in the road. Will it stay on the path of helpful criticism and debate or will it turn towards personal attacks on individual moderators? That's the type of fork that decides a thread's fate. We close very few topics but those that turn personal really leave us no choice.

There have been differences between users and moderators at one point or another, that's where we learn from the situations though. I know of differences between users and mods in the past and I think everybody needs to give a second chance to those they have differences with. I know we all try to improve how we handle things and hopefully it's evident over time.

So what happens when a "moderator" personally attacks a member??? I look at what has been said on this site, and I understand that we are all different, and express ourselves differently, however there are "some" moderators who have taken their "responsibilities" way too seriously.

Look I am sure that I have been over the line a few times, but I have also turned the other cheek a time or two as well.

Jeremy · 01-30-2007, 10:34 PM

Fair enough, I know I too have been opinionated at times, like anybody. I think as we have grown, it has gotten much better. I also think it has gotten exponentially better on all accounts the past month or two as we've all been around more users on a constant basis.

I think the best thing is for everybody to look towards the future and what we can all do to make this a great place going forward and forget about the time or two in the past when somebody has rubbed us the wrong way.

GoShow97 · 01-30-2007, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by darts180

So what happens when a "moderator" personally attacks a member??? I look at what has been said on this site, and I understand that we are all different, and express ourselves differently, however there are "some" moderators who have taken their "responsibilities" way too seriously.

Look I am sure that I have been over the line a few times, but I have also turned the other cheek a time or two as well.

This is a very good point. I think we all can appreciate the effort and work most mods and Jeremy put into this site. But when a mod interjects their own personal agenda towards a member(s) to the point of chastising them for the manner in which they post; not for subject matter and outside of opinions…………… well that is just over the top in my opinion.

Not the least of which said mod calling me a *****. If that is not a personal attack what is? From a certain mod no less. How does that reflect towrds others involved with this site?

Seth · 01-30-2007, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by darts180

So what happens when a "moderator" personally attacks a member??? I look at what has been said on this site, and I understand that we are all different, and express ourselves differently, however there are "some" moderators who have taken their "responsibilities" way too seriously.

Look I am sure that I have been over the line a few times, but I have also turned the other cheek a time or two as well.

I can't speak for Jeremy, but your best bet there is to just send a PM to the moderator and try to rectify the situation. If that doesn't work, PM one of the other mod's and we can discuss it privately. PM's really are way under-utilized I think. They really help keep the site clear of everyone's dirty laundry. I understand what you're saying though, it's easy to get hot-headed and attack someone personally, and even the moderators fall prey to it. However, I think all of the mod's are mature enough to know how to handle it if/when we're called out on it.

Jeremy · 01-30-2007, 10:41 PM

Well I think we've vented enough:) Let's try and think towards the future of the site and let the past issues die down. We can rehash everything forever but I urge everybody to try and get along as we all have the same overall goal of enjoying the company of other Cyclones. We may have small differences of opinion or ways of going about things, but we all have the same general idea.

Just relax and enjoy the ride that Cyclone Athletics will undoubtedly be taking us on. We don't all get along in real life and we won't all get along online sharing opinions and ideas about things dear to us. Let's try and do our best though:)

michaelrr1 · 01-30-2007, 10:51 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this too. I highly doubt I've seen all the threads that end up closed, but of all the ones I've seen closed, it has only been done by one specific moderator. I can honestly say I don't recall any other moderator closing a thread. To be fair, I know Jeremy has closed threads before. I have no problems with the guy who started the whole website doing this, especially since it has been in a tolerant manner.