Mod's without Humor

darts180 · 01-30-2007, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by michaelrr1

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this too. I highly doubt I've seen all the threads that end up closed, but of all the ones I've seen closed, it has only been done by one specific moderator. I can honestly say I don't recall any other moderator closing a thread. To be fair, I know Jeremy has closed threads before. I have no problems with the guy who started the whole website doing this, especially since it has been in a tolerant manner.

Only ONE?????? hmmmmmmmmmm.........very interesting. I wonder who it was???????

Jeremy · 01-30-2007, 11:03 PM

Guys, you need to remember that the moderators are a very necessary part of the site. They are in essence the backbone to make sure things are smooth. They're the ones deleting porn that gets posted, removing slanderous remarks and keeping things appropriate for all ages. They might not always do what everybody agrees with but it's in theory what they feel is best for the site and it's continuation. I know it's not always the fun thing to do and that's all the more reason to appreciate what they do. They put up with threads like this bashing them for all the hard work they do that never gets recognized. Have I agreed with every single thing done? No but I also understand they're looking out for all of us to be able to continue to call this place home. They deserve far more credit than what they get and everybody needs to cut them slack for making judgment calls on the fly. We're all young and energetic, opinionated and human.

GoShow97 · 01-30-2007, 11:04 PM

What is the common denominator I wonder.

Welp I've said my piece. Just food for thought for the Admin at this point.

Something about the old saying: it only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch.

Later.

isucyfan · 01-30-2007, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Jeremy

We're all young and energetic, opinionated and human.

I resent that...I am neither young or energetic, and some days barely human.

My 2 cents: this board is virtually hawk-free and generally respectful, which can't be said for many others of its ilk. I take the good with the bad, and must say that it is overwhelmingly good! (and free!)

My experience with the mods has been that they have been very helpful when I first started posting and had some questions. Conversely, one did shut down a thread after my first post when some guy jumped me for some innocuous comment. I got defensive and retaliated back, and the thread, in that case, was closed justifiably.

Not trying to diminish the concerns here, just giving my experiences!

Jeremy · 01-30-2007, 11:17 PM

Very important, please read...

One last note at bed time. Please let this die down and see how things are going forward. We have the best forums here for open and free discussion and nobody here deserves to be crucified for having a die-hard belief and love for the Cyclones. Let's let this die and revisit it in a few months after things have evolved.

iccyfan · 01-30-2007, 11:40 PM

Sorry to have started the commotion! For the record, I've never had a direct problem with any of the mod's, though one of them does have the distinction of receiving the only negative reputation I've ever doled out (and it wasn't Amy or Angie or C. John or Guitarchitect or any of the other mod's who have posted in this thread).

I really only wanted an administrator over-ride on the "BVD lock", but I now understand it was locked down due to personal attacks on a member. While I didn't call anybody any names, I was participatory and for that I apologize.

Keep up the great work as it's a wonderful site! Thanks, Jeremy!

Bobber · 01-30-2007, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by darts180

Most of the people that run this site understand it for what it is (yes Jeremy I AM talking about you), a forum for people to get into and discuss/argue all things Iowa State. I believe that it was designed to be a free flowing discussion, and as long as noone is attacked on a personal level, then anything should be fair game.

The problem is that there are SOME, I REPEAT SOME, moderators who consider themselves the perfect fan, and all should aspire to be like them, and root for Iowa State in their perfect way. When there are people of dissenting opinions on board, and they make their feelings known, it disrupts the moral utopia that some of the these people wish for. You have seen the people on here that try to guide the debate as it happens, we ALL know who they are.

I love this site as well, Jeremy does a hell of a job, and I like a lot of the people on this site, even the ones that don't agree with me.

I think everything will cool down IF Dan McCarney ever gets a job. Some of these people need it, because they invested so much in the guy. The problem is that the clock is ticking down. There aren't too many jobs left out there.

Jeff you crack me up! Man you had me laughing on this comment. It's the Dan McCarney conspiracy raising it's ugly head again!

Wesley · 01-31-2007, 12:02 AM

So who attacked poore olde barney again?

darts180 · 01-31-2007, 12:09 AM

Thanks Bobber.

I think that it is time to state for the record that while I don't agree with certain people on this site, it is never anything personal. We all agree on one thing that Iowa State is the best team on the planet. So even though we are all different people from all different walks of life, but we have that one bond.

I think that it is important to always remember that the people on the other end of the computer are people too. I know that sometimes in the heat of argument we may forget that (I know that I do), but I am extending the olive branch to the moderator who has been the target of this thread.

travman23 · 01-31-2007, 12:25 AM

I for one think the Mods do a great job here and are fair and considerate. For instance there was a situation today where a user was leaving neg. rep for a few user's and putting my name at the end of the comment. All the sudden I was getting PM messages in my box asking why I left the comments and I had no clue what they were talking about. This was sometime late this afternoon this started and I just got home and had a message from a Mod that they tracked down who it was and were handling the situation. I did not initiate the "investigation" and I am very impressed how quickly the situation got handled before it could have gotten ugly and I was acused of more things that I did not do.

I've been on some other boards in the past I think the people that run this one do a great job and are very fair. There are some boards that would delete or lock any threads that were any bit negative or causing a big debate and here as long as everyone continues a civil thread they let it go on.

CTAClone · 01-31-2007, 12:38 AM

I think everyone is missing the main point of this thread, which I'm really shocked hasn't been brought up yet. I think everyone that has written on this thread is really trying to make the site better and aren't out to attack anyone personally. I think everyone needs to realize that sometimes you have to take the bad with the good, but it's nice to see that everyone is trying to improve upon the bad and hopefully it will eventually just all be good. But now back to the main point of my post which I feel is the main heart of this thread. Since when has there been humor on Cyclone Fanatic?

cyflyer · 01-31-2007, 12:49 AM

I have run sites like this with years of experience. Admin and mod level.

First of all, my opinion is that a mod that slips up a couple times in contradiction to his/her modding duties should be hand slapped and let go. A mod consistently having trouble separating their first duty as a mod and working more so as a power poster should not be a mod.

In regards to mod coordination. Is there a mod only forum that problem threads can be moved to for review rather than deletion? In the past I've used a mod only forum (can only be seen by mods or admins) and threads are moved and discussed instead of deleting them and people can express from the mod group in agreement to the removal. Helps not only keep all mods involved in decisions but also can keep those power hungry mods in check from deleting and there is no way to prove they were in the wrong.

Angie · 01-31-2007, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by cyflyer

I have run sites like this with years of experience. Admin and mod level.

First of all, my opinion is that a mod that slips up a couple times in contradiction to his/her modding duties should be hand slapped and let go. A mod consistently having trouble separating their first duty as a mod and working more so as a power poster should not be a mod.

In regards to mod coordination. Is there a mod only forum that problem threads can be moved to for review rather than deletion? In the past I've used a mod only forum (can only be seen by mods or admins) and threads are moved and discussed instead of deleting them and people can't express from the mod group in agreement to the removal. Helps not only keep all mods involved in decisions but also can keep those power hungry mods in check from deleting and there is no way to prove they were in the wrong.

That is a great suggestion, cyflyer - and actually one that we just started implementing more fully. Any reported posts are put into a moderator forum, where we discuss actions that should be taken. We recently set up moderator rules (I'm not sure if they're posted for view by all users?) that specifically encourage reporting/discussing posts before acting on your own. This is a relatively young site, though - great ideas like this are encouraged and welcomed!

cyflyer · 01-31-2007, 01:04 AM

Modding is a double edged sword. Like Paul or not, the experience here should easily give Paul's sympathy in regards to shutting down the free boards. Free forums are difficult with so much potential for Jekyll and Hyde posters.

Modding methods should always be under review I've found and modding rights (modding ability) should be a privilege not a right (modding is not supported under the Constitution of the United States) ;)

Angie · 01-31-2007, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by cyflyer

Modding is a double edged sword. Like Paul or not, the experience here should easily give Paul's sympathy in regards to shutting down the free boards. Free forums are difficult with so much potential for Jekyll and Hyde posters.

Modding methods should always be under review I've found and modding rights (modding ability) should be a privilege not a right (modding is not supported under the Constitution of the United States) ;)

VERY good points - and, as more members join a site, it becomes harder and harder to determine who is a person who actually wants to post, and who is just here to cause trouble (Hawk fans, etc. - hence, your Jekyll and Hyde analogy). The mods themselves all have different methods, too (I'm pretty liberal, for example), so you really do have to keep adapting to the situation!