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Old 01-04-2008, 11:40 AM   #31
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
They could put up their Rep Power as collateral for the loan. If they default, you get their Rep Power...
That is actually a strangely good idea.

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:41 AM   #32
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

One thing I've noticed is that a lot of people don't really know why they're getting credits. Here is an updated list of what activities on the site create a payout in credits. Note that I just adjusted the numbers this morning to make it so more credits are given out per activitiy since we all seem to be high-rollers


Credits - Activity Name

Explanation



50 - Induction Credit

Applied when user first joins this usergroup such as by registration, subscription, manually, promotion, etc.


20 - Referral Credit

Applied when a referral is validated. This is checked every midnight.


1 - Additive Referral Bonus

This is multiplied against each user's referral points, and then multiplied against all other credit awards.


500 - Paycheck Credit
Applied every set time period with no particular restrictions. (Currently every 7 days)


1000 - Activity Credit

Applied every set time period if the user qualifies as having been active during that period. (Currently every 7 days)


2500 - Birthday Credit

Applied at midnight on the birthday of each user.


100 - Granted Reputation Credit

Applied when this user gives reputation to others. Can be set to multiply against the absolute reputation given.


100 - Received Reputation Credit

Applied when the user receives reputation. Can be set to multiply against the amount of reputation received.


-1,000 - Infraction Credit

Applied when user receives an infraction. You probably want this to be negative as a penalty, and can be set to multiply against the infraction points.


200 - New Thread Credit


1 - Thread Rated Credit


50 - Posting Credit

Applied for all valid posts, except when creating a new thread or replying to your own thread.


5 - Your Thread Posting Credit

Applied for all valid posts made in a thread which they originally created.


1 - Post Size Credit

Applied in addition to any posting credits, for every word or character.


1 - Your Thread Viewed Credit

Applied to the thread owner when their thread is viewed. Does not count on the owner.


1 - Your Thread Rated Credit

Applied to the thread owner when their thread is rated. Does not count on the owner.


1 - Your Thread Replied Credit

Applied to the thread owner when their thread is posted in. Does not count on the owner.


1 - Your Profile Viewed Credit

Applied to the profile owner when their profile is viewed. Does not count on the owner.


25 - Poll Created Credit


1 - Poll Voted Credit


25 - Attachment Credit

Applied when uploaded.


5 - Sent PM Credit

Applied when user sends a PM, but does not prevent the action.


10 - Calendar Event Credit

Applied when an event is added.


10 - Profile Picture Credit

Applied when a profile picture is added.


10 - Profile Fields Credit

Applied when the user has all custom profile fields filled out.

A program isn't built on one player and it doesn't succeed because of one player, thus a program won't fail if it doesn't get that one player.


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Old 01-04-2008, 11:42 AM   #33
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

Some stats that would be fun to see...Top 5 in...

# of bets placed
# of bets won
# of bets lost
Most credits lost - single bet
Most credits lost - total I

Would need a filter on the # of bets placed/won/lost for bets where at least 100 (or a different number) credits were waged. Otherwise people will just bet 1 credit on everything.

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:44 AM   #34
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

I know I have been holding off betting (partly because I apparently suck at it) to see what tangible things you can get with credits. (Jeremy hinted about this earlier)

When is that info coming?
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:45 AM   #35
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

The system is close to perfect as it is as mentioned. I do not believe it should be "easy" to obtain large amounts of credits if you gamble and lose. There should be penalty just as there would be a reward if you won. It will be more true to life (i.e. betting with money) if this were the case and that is what makes the system fun.
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:45 AM   #36
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

Clearly there is a problem right now with accumulating credits for not being on the site very much and not posting - that I can fix by decreasing the weekly paycheck and increasing the activity paycheck. Maybe make the weekly paycheck 250/week and the activity paycheck 250/day?

I do agree that the loan system would be potentially confusing and hard to manage. We can scratch that idea.

Donations for credits - we'll get that going and I can retroactively add credits too.

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:46 AM   #37
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

The one piece I would like to see as mentioned is a "longest winning streak" and "longest losing streak".
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:47 AM   #38
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

retroactive..... I love that word!

more $$ higher payback?

what is the current or soon to be exchange rate for $$ to CyCredits? Better than the peso? Ruble?

-keep.

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:48 AM   #39
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
Clearly there is a problem right now with accumulating credits for not being on the site very much and not posting - that I can fix by decreasing the weekly paycheck and increasing the activity paycheck. Maybe make the weekly paycheck 250/week and the activity paycheck 250/day?

I do agree that the loan system would be potentially confusing and hard to manage. We can scratch that idea.

Donations for credits - we'll get that going and I can retroactively add credits too.
I think this sounds great.

Daily activity constitutes posting at least 1 time or reading x number of threads?

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:48 AM   #40
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

The biggest obsticle I've faced with getting tangible items is just trying to decide how to set it up to be fair. I can make a store for instance but how many credits would be good? We have a wide range of credit holders and I don't want to make it so nobody can get things but I also don't want to give things away for "nothing".

The ticket giveaway seemed to go over really well and I even made it so the winners got the credits accumulated in the lottery. We can do more lotteries to keep things even but we'd have to figure out how many credits per ticket.

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:49 AM   #41
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
I think this sounds great.

Daily activity constitutes posting at least 1 time or reading x number of threads?
That's what I was thinking. It encourages people to interact beyond just reading. Not everybody likes to post but everybody likes to bet

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:49 AM   #42
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

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The one piece I would like to see as mentioned is a "longest winning streak" and "longest losing streak".
I agree, this would be fun to see as well.

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:50 AM   #43
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

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That's what I was thinking. It encourages people to interact beyond just reading. Not everybody likes to post but everybody likes to bet
Do you have stats on what % of users place bets? or post for that matter?

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:50 AM   #44
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
The biggest obsticle I've faced with getting tangible items is just trying to decide how to set it up to be fair. I can make a store for instance but how many credits would be good? We have a wide range of credit holders and I don't want to make it so nobody can get things but I also don't want to give things away for "nothing".

The ticket giveaway seemed to go over really well and I even made it so the winners got the credits accumulated in the lottery. We can do more lotteries to keep things even but we'd have to figure out how many credits per ticket.
Thanks for the info...now I can bet away!

How about a lottery for credits? Kinda like a CyPowerball? That would be fun and give someone an insane number of credits to bet with.
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:51 AM   #45
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Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed

I don't think we need to be paying out more credits just because people are being stupid with them and have none left. It's fake gambling, if I blew $50k at the casino I doubt they are going to hand me out some more money just because I went broke. I have a fair ammount of credits and in fact I just lost about 70k or so of them on a couple bets this week but I'm not dumb enough to go all in on something like some people here do then are left out to dry with nothing when they lose.

A loan system sounds interesting but you'd have to set it up somehow so it charges interest on the loaned ammount so people don't abuse it. I think its been a fun feature but I don't think those who are dumb with their credits should be given some special exceptions while those who have been smart with them are in a sense somewhat penalized for being smart with them by giving these people multiple chances to get back up in the credits with them.

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