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01-04-2008, 11:52 AM
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#46 | | Hall-Of-Famer
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clive, Iowa
Posts: 4,286
Credits: 3,285 | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | | Originally Posted by Jeremy The biggest obsticle I've faced with getting tangible items is just trying to decide how to set it up to be fair. I can make a store for instance but how many credits would be good? We have a wide range of credit holders and I don't want to make it so nobody can get things but I also don't want to give things away for "nothing".
The ticket giveaway seemed to go over really well and I even made it so the winners got the credits accumulated in the lottery. We can do more lotteries to keep things even but we'd have to figure out how many credits per ticket.
Again...you are trying to hard to make it so everybody wins (regarding your comment about the store and how many credits for tangible items). I understand why you want to do this, but it's not true to life IMO. I really like knowing when I bet (even with only credits) that there are potential rewards along with potential consequences. I can live with the fact that I can't have something in the store if I lose large amounts of credits on a bet.
Keep the systems fun and real. Not everybody needs to win something everyday. I think most on here would accept the various consequences for how they bet on events and not expect charity in return.
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01-04-2008, 11:53 AM
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#47 | | Cyclone Fanatic
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Des Moines
Posts: 11,524
Credits: 31,191,060 NFL: Colts NBA: Suns MLB: Red Sox Awards: 2008 Best Website | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | |
OK - I just changed it to 25 credits per day for each member and 250 per day for posting.
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01-04-2008, 11:54 AM
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#48 | | "Big Tuna"
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,962
Credits: 4,707,262 Year: DNG NFL: Cowboys NBA: Suns MLB: Royals | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | | Originally Posted by Jeremy OK - I just changed it to 25 credits per day for each member and 250 per day for posting. tomorrow can't come soon enough!
-keep
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01-04-2008, 11:54 AM
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#49 | | Hall-Of-Famer
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: IA
Posts: 4,472
Credits: 2,465,571 | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | | Originally Posted by travman23 I don't think we need to be paying out more credits just because people are being stupid with them and have none left. It's fake gambling, if I blew $50k at the casino I doubt they are going to hand me out some more money just because I went broke. I have a fair ammount of credits and in fact I just lost about 70k or so of them on a couple bets this week but I'm not dumb enough to go all in on something like some people here do then are left out to dry with nothing when they lose.
A loan system sounds interesting but you'd have to set it up somehow so it charges interest on the loaned ammount so people don't abuse it. I think its been a fun feature but I don't think those who are dumb with their credits should be given some special exceptions while those who have been smart with them are in a sense somewhat penalized for being smart with them by giving these people multiple chances to get back up in the credits with them. Careful, from the looks of the top 50 'Members Credits' list roll-over every week (sometimes daily) you're calling quite a few people dumb and stupid, including the esteemed leader.
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01-04-2008, 11:54 AM
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#50 | | Pro
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marshalltown
Posts: 2,795
Credits: 150,770 Year: 99 NFL: Chiefs | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | | Originally Posted by Jeremy OK - I just changed it to 25 credits per day for each member and 250 per day for posting. +250 | | |
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01-04-2008, 11:54 AM
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#51 | | Hall-Of-Famer
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clive, Iowa
Posts: 4,286
Credits: 3,285 | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | | Originally Posted by travman23 I don't think we need to be paying out more credits just because people are being stupid with them and have none left. It's fake gambling, if I blew $50k at the casino I doubt they are going to hand me out some more money just because I went broke. I have a fair ammount of credits and in fact I just lost about 70k or so of them on a couple bets this week but I'm not dumb enough to go all in on something like some people here do then are left out to dry with nothing when they lose.
A loan system sounds interesting but you'd have to set it up somehow so it charges interest on the loaned ammount so people don't abuse it. I think its been a fun feature but I don't think those who are dumb with their credits should be given some special exceptions while those who have been smart with them are in a sense somewhat penalized for being smart with them by giving these people multiple chances to get back up in the credits with them.
Finally someone agrees. This needs to be as close to real life gambling as possible to keep it "fun". No charity for those who bet big and lose...that's the way the cookie crumbles.
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01-04-2008, 11:55 AM
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#52 | | Cyclone Fanatic
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Des Moines
Posts: 11,524
Credits: 31,191,060 NFL: Colts NBA: Suns MLB: Red Sox Awards: 2008 Best Website | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | |
I agree - it's a balance of realism but also making sure people can continue to have fun. I think the new payouts will help balance that out. Obviously further tweaking is needed but it's a good start to balancing things out.
I don't have the stats setup to show enough yet and that's on my shortened to-do list. It's a big priority, it's just a matter of work.
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A program isn't built on one player and it doesn't succeed because of one player, thus a program won't fail if it doesn't get that one player. |
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01-04-2008, 11:55 AM
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#53 | | Addict
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Des Moines
Posts: 5,986
Credits: 432,007 Year: 1994 Degree: BBA NFL: Steelers MLB: Cubs | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | | Originally Posted by isucyfan Thanks for the info...now I can bet away!
How about a lottery for credits? Kinda like a CyPowerball? That would be fun and give someone an insane number of credits to bet with. That's an interesting idea. Buy a ticket, pick numbers - something much easier than the 5 + 1 of regular powerball. Pot keeps rolling.
Or we could just make it simple and make it more of a raffle. Weekly drawing to win the pot - complete payout each drawing.
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I held the scabbard when the soldier drew his sword
I threw the dice when they pierced his side
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01-04-2008, 11:56 AM
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#54 | | "Big Tuna"
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,962
Credits: 4,707,262 Year: DNG NFL: Cowboys NBA: Suns MLB: Royals | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | |
how about only bookies can give out loans .... that is like real life (not that i know)....
But then they I, can charge points against the loan..... hehehe
-keep.
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01-04-2008, 11:57 AM
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#55 | | Speechless
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ankeny
Posts: 17,572
Credits: 5,472,331 Year: 1997 Degree: BS Com Sci NFL: Dolphins MLB: Cubs | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | |
How about betting between members? I don't know how it would work but it could be kind of a cool feature!
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01-04-2008, 11:58 AM
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#56 | | Addict
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Saint Paul, MN
Posts: 8,191
Credits: 2,373,016 Year: 1995 MLB: Mets | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | | Originally Posted by DaddyMac That's an interesting idea. Buy a ticket, pick numbers - something much easier than the 5 + 1 of regular powerball. Pot keeps rolling.
Or we could just make it simple and make it more of a raffle. Weekly drawing to win the pot - complete payout each drawing. I was thinking more of the second idea, to keep it simple.
The house could pony up a certain number of credits, then everybody pays in to up the ante, and a winner is drawn.
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01-04-2008, 11:59 AM
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#57 | | Hall-Of-Famer
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 3,666
Credits: 1,156,286 Year: 1994 NFL: Vikings NBA: Lakers MLB: Dodgers | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | |
Put a new Lexus in the CyStore...that would probably encourage a significant increase in activity...
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01-04-2008, 12:00 PM
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#58 | | Facebook Knows All
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Des Moines
Posts: 9,381
Credits: 2,114,927 Year: 2004 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | | Originally Posted by brianhos How about betting between members? I don't know how it would work but it could be kind of a cool feature! That could be accomplished if members could transfer credits to other members which I gree is a cool idea. Members could bet each other in the betting forum and bookies could could make sure the bets are kept.
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01-04-2008, 12:00 PM
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#59 | | Speechless
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Grimes, IA
Posts: 22,774
Credits: 4,717,207 NFL: Cowboys | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | | Originally Posted by clones_jer Careful, from the looks of the top 50 'Members Credits' list roll-over every week (sometimes daily) you're calling quite a few people dumb and stupid, including the esteemed leader. I agree.
And trav...as you stated...this isn't the casino. This is an online, fun betting system. Jeremy set it up so everyone can participate - even if you lose all your credits - as long as you're active - you get back in the game.
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01-04-2008, 12:01 PM
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#60 | | Addict
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Des Moines
Posts: 5,986
Credits: 432,007 Year: 1994 Degree: BBA NFL: Steelers MLB: Cubs | Re: CyCredit Feedback Needed | | Originally Posted by isucyfan I was thinking more of the second idea, to keep it simple.
The house could pony up a certain number of credits, then everybody pays in to up the ante, and a winner is drawn. Yeah - I agree with the simplicity part, at least to begin with.
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I was there when they crucified my Lord
I held the scabbard when the soldier drew his sword
I threw the dice when they pierced his side
But I've seen love conquer the great divide
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