Iowa MBB averaging 4,658 per game actual attendance

cycloneworld · 12-13-2007, 09:22 AM

I posted this in another thread but think it deserves its own. Normally I don't get too worked up about what's happening in Iowa City but this one is too big to pass up.

Iowa basketball: An empty feeling at Carver-Hawkeye | DesMoinesRegister.com | The Des Moines Register

Paid attendance is down nearly 3,000 per game from last year (it will pick up a little for conference play). They are only expecting 10,000 for the Drake game.

I love how Iowa fans claim they are some of the best in the nation...well, what do you have to say about this?

ISUFan22 · 12-13-2007, 09:27 AM

Getting to be a dead horse issue, especially with the other side ignoring the facts regarding the issue.

The situation is rather sad and was made worse by the football season - both on and off the field. Lots of apathy in Iowa City right now.

SouthernHawk · 12-13-2007, 09:28 AM

Yup, it's bad. It doesn't seem like the university is trying to do anything about it, which is disappointing. Not much else you can say about that.

mjones34 · 12-13-2007, 09:29 AM

Thats just typical hawk fans. They are great to their teams when they win (hence I thought their wrestling crowd was great for being on the road) and they abandon ship when their teams struggle. It's like they don't want to be associated when the team is losing. They have this sense of entitlement that they deserve to win because they're hawkeyes.

of course this isn't ALL their fans, just a lot I've known over the years.

ISUFan22 · 12-13-2007, 09:30 AM

Quit blaming the university!

The tickets have been sold. Number of sales down? Yes. But thousands more tickets have been sold vs the number of people that actually show up.

That is not the university's fault.

Tons of Iowa fans wanted Alford out. You got what you wanted, but not showing the support.

JJ4ISU · 12-13-2007, 09:32 AM

Pollard is spanking Barta! No ifs, ands or buts about it!!! Barta did a poor job of promoting this year's men's basketball team.

SouthernHawk · 12-13-2007, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Quit blaming the university!

The tickets have been sold. Number of sales down? Yes. But thousands more tickets have been sold vs the number of people that actually show up.

That is not the university's fault.

Tons of Iowa fans wanted Alford out. You got what you wanted, but not showing the support.

I'm not blaming the university. I do think they could do something about single game tickets. Ticket sales are down - people don't want to spend a lot of money for bad games.

Of course, it's likely that it wouldn't increase attendance that much more. I dunno, it's just bad. I really, REALLY hope that more people start showing up. Right now, the program is still in shambles. I know Lick can get it done, but it's going to be harder than he thought.

cycloneworld · 12-13-2007, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

Yup, it's bad. It doesn't seem like the university is trying to do anything about it, which is disappointing. Not much else you can say about that.

What should the University do?? Lower ticket prices because you "fans" don't want to pay a few extra bucks to support the program?

And as 22 said, selling more tickets just means more people won't show up. This isn't a University issue, it's a fan issue.

SouthernHawk · 12-13-2007, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by cycloneworld

What should the University do?? Lower ticket prices because you "fans" don't want to pay a few extra bucks to support the program?

And as 22 said, selling more tickets just means more people won't show up. This isn't a University issue, it's a fan issue.

Honestly though, there should be more people in the stands, but you can't blame the fans for not wanting to show up at 8:00 on a week night to watch their team struggle against Northern Colorado, especially when they can watch the game on TV or listen on the radio. When the team gets better, I'm sure that won't be as much of an issue, but if you look around the Big Ten, other teams are having the same problems.

There is no excuse for it. It would be nice to at least see the place half way full...

cycloneworld · 12-13-2007, 09:38 AM

Here is the difference between Iowa and ISU fans:

Year 1 - Greg McDermott. Team is picked to finish last in the Big 12. Average paid attendance for the year is 12,489...25th in the nation.

ISUFan22 · 12-13-2007, 09:39 AM

Ok...no more back peddle. In your past posts and your first one on this thread, the university was your target...

Yup, it's bad. It doesn't seem like the university is trying to do anything about it, which is disappointing. Not much else you can say about that.

Seems clear to me who you're blaming. You continue to skirt the fan issue or will only "agree" with it once it's jammed down your thought.

I enjoy many of your posts SH, but sometimes you're such a big homer that you can't see what's right in front of you...including facts.

cycloneworld · 12-13-2007, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

Honestly though, there should be more people in the stands, but you can't blame the fans for not wanting to show up at 8:00 on a week night to watch their team struggle against Northern Colorado, especially when they can watch the game on TV or listen on the radio. When the team gets better, I'm sure that won't be as much of an issue, but if you look around the Big Ten, other teams are having the same problems.

There is no excuse for it. It would be nice to at least see the place half way full...

You preceed this statement with excuses.

True fans DO show up to Northern Colorado games. Why do people go to the football games when they can listen to it on the radio or watch it on TV?

ISUFan22 · 12-13-2007, 09:40 AM

More excuses about game times and opponents.

ISU fans, you know, the lowly in-state rival, are showing up at Hilton - regardless of who or when.

Are Iowa fans so elite that they just show up when the team is good and/or they're playing marquee opponents?

jdoggivjc · 12-13-2007, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

Honestly though, there should be more people in the stands, but you can't blame the fans for not wanting to show up at 8:00 on a week night to watch their team struggle against Northern Colorado, especially when they can watch the game on TV or listen on the radio. When the team gets better, I'm sure that won't be as much of an issue, but if you look around the Big Ten, other teams are having the same problems.

There is no excuse for it. It would be nice to at least see the place half way full...

Why not? We have 7:30 games on weeknights to struggle against teams like Centenary (I know it was a Saturday game, but I'm trying to prove a point) and Northern Iowa, yet we still fill our arena. As far as the attendance getting better at Iowa when the team gets better, that's the point we're making here - the Cyclones were not a good team last year and are not a good team this year and the fans are still showing up to support the team. Iowa fans demanded Alford be gone, got their wish, the team is struggling, and have significantly less attendance than last year. The difference is clear - ISU fans support their Cyclones through thick and thin, Iowa fans support their Hawkeyes when the teams are winning and it's popular to do so. As much as I'd like to have the kind of numbers the Iowa fan base has, I hope the ISU fan base never develops this kind of overall apathy.

cycloneworld · 12-13-2007, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

More excuses about game times and opponents.

ISU fans, you know, the lowly in-state rival, are showing up at Hilton - regardless of who or when.

Are Iowa fans so elite that they just show up when the team is good and/or they're playing marquee opponents?

Playing Wake Forest on your home floor is pretty marquee...and they still don't show up. So it must be that they only think they should show up when the team is good.

This is exactly why I dislike Iowa fans (in general). They are entitled to winning basketball without putting in the "work" when the team is bad. They were the same way early in Ferentz's first few years for football.