Why do Drake fans...

cycloneworld · 12-19-2007, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by bostinelosd

I will agree with this. Media attention should go to whoever deserves it. Honestly I dont want the attention on ISU yet.

Like reporting all of the good things being done in Iraq, all of the good things pro athletes do, etc??

It's not even remotely about who deserves it, it's about what sells.

wonkadog · 12-19-2007, 11:36 AM

If Drake continues playing/shooting like they have been, they should be on the bubble this year. Of course it seems as though I've heard this same song/dance before with their preconference performances in the past...

mjones34 · 12-19-2007, 11:38 AM

Who knows what will happen to Drake. It's a long season. I say they have a legitimate arguement halfway through confernce season and they're still at less than 5 losses.

cycloneworld · 12-19-2007, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by clones_jer

ISU and Iowa need to EARN respect - their programs are off to a rough start

Really?

Just like Kentucky, UNC, Duke need to EARN the right to play on ESPN even if they aren't very good? Riiiight.

Iowa State and Iowa are the UNC and Duke in the state. They will always be the lead story because more people care about Iowa State than they do about Drake and UNI combined...even if ISU isn't very good.

Unless Drake actually makes some noise in the conference or gets into the NCAA tournament, they won't get more media attention than we do.

bostinelosd · 12-19-2007, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by cycloneworld

Like reporting all of the good things being done in Iraq, all of the good things pro athletes do, etc??

It's not even remotely about who deserves it, it's about what sells.

Dang it, I hate when things I say let people form good rebuttals.

Jeremy · 12-19-2007, 11:39 AM

Once their fans start numbering those of Iowa or Iowa State - and the money follows - then and only then have they earned more coverage. It's what makes money and Drake vs Crappy U doesn't sell ads to make up for bumping a regular show off the air.

ISUFan22 · 12-19-2007, 11:40 AM

The only way to fix this and shut them up is for Iowa State to, well, start winning...

BryceC · 12-19-2007, 11:40 AM

Totally agree with kgreeny and wartknight here. They don't get the attention that ISU and Iowa do because there are a lot more people that care about ISU and Iowa.

I'm happy for Drake and their quick start. However, as many people have pointed out, they are 9-1 this year. They were 9-2 last year and then promptly went to 9-7 starting out 0-5 in the Valley. I wish Drake luck but they did the same thing last year and didn't make the NIT. Let's see them make some noise in a weaker Valley this year before people start going nuts over them.

ISUFan22 · 12-19-2007, 11:42 AM

I agree with that, it's not like they've defeated anyone so far. If they were 9-1 and Iowa/ISU were good teams - that would say something.

But that's not true, not even close.

cycloneworld · 12-19-2007, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

I agree with that, it's not like they've defeated anyone so far. If they were 9-1 and Iowa/ISU were good teams - that would say something.

But that's not true, not even close.

Exactly. But my point was that these fans calling into Coltar thought they deserved all of this attention for starting 9-1. When really they don't.

ISUFan22 · 12-19-2007, 11:45 AM

I'm curious as to why we care what goes on during Cotlar's show...especially when it pertains to something other than us.

I mean...we're talking about Cotlar here...(who hasn't even been on the air the last couple days).

wonkadog · 12-19-2007, 11:48 AM

With all this Valley talk I started thinking about UNI and their great football season again. Did I just miss out or was there very little follow up to them pissing the #1 seed down their leg?? It seemed like I couldn't turn around without hearing about the "feel good story of the year" in Iowa the weeks leading up to the playoffs but then I haven't heard a peep from Cedar Falls in a while.

Steve · 12-19-2007, 11:50 AM

Drake fans have no argument until they start to support their team by buying tickets. They also don't have much of a statewide fan base. A few loud mouth complainers isn't going to change the situation. Only the fans and the school can do that - not the media.

Compare Drake to Creighton. Similar size private MVC schools. Historically Drake went from Maurry John fielding teams that drew good crowds to Vets. Note to Drake fans - MJ, Lewis Lloyd, & Co are long gone. Their last teams and crowds at Vets were pitiful. They then chose to build a crackerbox gym. Even with a decent team, it's a struggle to draw over 4-5,000.

In contrast, Creighton had a vision that is paying off. They typically drew 5-9000 in the old Civic Auditorium with an occasional 10,500 sellout. They also suffered through the lean Willis Reed era. Still they made the decision to commit to moving to the 16,000 seat Quest Center and are now the hot ticket in town. Still not much outstate support or interest, but a Bluejay game is the place to be for area fans. Yes they now get more media attention. But it was driven by fan growth, not media creating something that didn't exist.

cycloneworld · 12-19-2007, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

I'm curious as to why we care what goes on during Cotlar's show...especially when it pertains to something other than us.

I mean...we're talking about Cotlar here...(who hasn't even been on the air the last couple days).

Point taken. But I was listening on my way to work this morning and the Drake people calling in annoyed the crap out of me. Almost to the point where I nearly called in (which I've never done).

mjones34 · 12-19-2007, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

I'm curious as to why we care what goes on during Cotlar's show...especially when it pertains to something other than us.

I mean...we're talking about Cotlar here...(who hasn't even been on the air the last couple days).

He hasn't been on because he's been sick. I enjoy hearing about Drake, ISU or UNI but will turn the station if it's Iowa.