A Chaplain for the Iowa Football team?

ketelmeister · 03-27-2008, 08:06 PM

As the Hawkeyes continue to react to pressure from the Iowa Regents, they are proposing a new "life skills" position, which in reality is a Chaplin for the football team. In that baston of liberal thinking, this is almost unbelievable. They laughed at Iowa State just a few months ago for the exact same position being added. A lot of promises are being made and the athletic dept continues to reel from the onslaught of arrest, and the continuing investigation of a possible coverup from an assault case. This is getting more and more interesting. (This was mentioned in a previous thread...sorry for the same topic.)

cybsball20 · 03-27-2008, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by ketelmeister

As the Hawkeyes continue to react to pressure from the Iowa Regents, they are proposing a new "life skills" position, which in reality is a Chaplin for the football team. In that baston of liberal thinking, this is almost unbelievable. They laughed at Iowa State just a few months ago for the exact same position being added. A lot of promises are being made and the athletic dept continues to reel from the onslaught of arrest, and the continuing investigation of a possible coverup from an assault case. This is getting more and more interesting. (This was mentioned in a previous thread...sorry for the same topic.)

Didn't Ferentz say that the position will have absolutely nothing to do with a religious affiliation?

Cyclonesrule91 · 03-27-2008, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by ketelmeister

(This was mentioned in a previous thread...sorry for the same topic.)

Don't be sorry, it is always great to read about the spiraling out of control thugeyes. No apologies needed........

ce1 · 03-27-2008, 09:21 PM

Hawkeyes are hiring for a "life skills" position? How 'bout a Probation Officer instead?

SouthernHawk · 03-27-2008, 09:34 PM

Several things... this has nothing to do with the Regents, I can guarantee you that. Of course, anything/everything good that the program does is going to be credited to somebody else, so of course Ferentz doesn't want the program to improve, it must be the Regents.

Also, this isn't a Chaplin. Not even close. No religious affiliation. They are going to do a better job of introducing student athletes to the Iowa City atmosphere, which is what I think they should have been doing 10 years ago.

ripvdub · 03-27-2008, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

Several things... this has nothing to do with the Regents, I can guarantee you that. Of course, anything/everything good that the program does is going to be credited to somebody else, so of course Ferentz doesn't want the program to improve, it must be the Regents.

Also, this isn't a Chaplin. Not even close. No religious affiliation. They are going to do a better job of introducing student athletes to the Iowa City atmosphere, which is what I think they should have been doing 10 years ago.

Iowa City atmosphere?!?! You mean coffee shops and bars where you can drink underage as long as you have someone over 21 in your vacinity?

This person will have the same exact position as the chaplain at ISU, this guys "title" is a way to keep the freaky-freak liberals off Ferentz back about it.

SouthernHawk · 03-27-2008, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by ripvdub

Iowa City atmosphere?!?! You mean coffee shops and bars where you can drink underage as long as you have someone over 21 in your vacinity?

This person will have the same exact position as the chaplain at ISU, this guys "title" is a way to keep the freaky-freak liberals off Ferentz back about it.

Well, if he's religious, that's irrelevant. But he's not going to be affiliated with a church.

I don't care either way. And the liberals are already on the back of the football program because of the pink locker rooms.

markshir · 03-27-2008, 09:48 PM

So the person filling the position will not be a member of any church or base their advice in any faith?

SouthernHawk · 03-27-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by markshir

So the person filling the position will not be a member of any church or base their advice in any faith?

They won't be church affiliated. But I'm not sure about basing their decisions on faith. I'm not aware there is anything wrong with basing decisions on faith. I don't think he'll say "You're bad, and Jesus doesn't approve."

thunderdave · 03-27-2008, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

Several things... this has nothing to do with the Regents, I can guarantee you that. Of course, anything/everything good that the program does is going to be credited to somebody else, so of course Ferentz doesn't want the program to improve, it must be the Regents.

Also, this isn't a Chaplin. Not even close. No religious affiliation. They are going to do a better job of introducing student athletes to the Iowa City atmosphere, which is what I think they should have been doing 10 years ago.

How can you guarantee this?
How many regents have you personally spoken to in the last few months?

ISUAlum2002 · 03-27-2008, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by thunderdave

How can you guarantee this?
How many regents have you personally spoken to in the last few months?

SH seems to hate the thought of the Regents having any sort of control or influence on the Iowa football program. Every time the authority of the Board of Regents is brought up, SH angrily denies they have any ability to enact change of any type within the Iowa Athletic Department. Which in reality, the Regents have to sign off on almost every major move that is made at any of the state's publicly funded universities.

CYKOFAN · 03-27-2008, 10:59 PM

Ripvdub- Maybe the "freaky freak" liberals are religious but just believe in the separation of church and state. Isn't that one of the reasons many early Europeans came to America?

SouthernHawk · 03-27-2008, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by thunderdave

How can you guarantee this?
How many regents have you personally spoken to in the last few months?

Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002

SH seems to hate the thought of the Regents having any sort of control or influence on the Iowa football program. Every time the authority of the Board of Regents is brought up, SH angrily denies they have any ability to enact change of any type within the Iowa Athletic Department. Which in reality, the Regents have to sign off on almost every major move that is made at any of the state's publicly funded universities.

Until something other than the word of mouth comes out (media, etc...) that the Regents flaunted their power and forced the Iowa AD to bend and hire somebody to help with the issues, then I'll believe it.

Until then, it gets under my skin because giving credit to the Regents for anything positive that happens to the Iowa program takes away from anything that the coaches/AD may be trying to do to better their image. It makes it sound like they are completely incompetent, and need the "all mighty Regents" to come and in and save the day.

I'm sure they said something to the effect of "We're tired of the issues", but I can say with 99% certainty that any new additions to the staff were no the result of pressure from the Regents, but rather were caused by the coaches realizing there is a problem, and wanting to fix it.

It would be similar to me claiming that the Regents forced ISU to hire a new football coach, because they were tired of ISU receiving money for losing. It's not true, and is a slap in the face to the coaches, AD, and the school.

ISUAlum2002 · 03-27-2008, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

Until then, it gets under my skin because giving credit to the Regents for anything positive that happens to the Iowa program takes away from anything that the coaches/AD may be trying to do to better their image. It makes it sound like they are completely incompetent, and need the "all mighty Regents" to come and in and save the day.

What exactly have the coaches/AD done to try to better their image lately?

Surely the same Iowa fans that ridiculed Chizik and the ISU athletic department for working toward getting a life skills advisor couldn't possibly support the same position for their own program, could they?

SouthernHawk · 03-27-2008, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002

What exactly have the coaches/AD done to try to better their image lately?

Surely the same Iowa fans that ridiculed Chizik and the ISU athletic department for working toward getting a life skills advisor couldn't possibly support the same position for their own program, could they?

Well, let's see....

- Bowman, Nelson, DD, Cleveland, Everson, and Satterfield are no longer with the team (but of course, that's either the forceful hand of the Regents, or they left on their own will and weren't forced out by the coaches)

- Hiring of a mentoring coach (Regents)

- Installing new curfew rules (Obviously not enough, I mean simple measures couldn't work, could they?)

And I'm sure there are other things.