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04-09-2008, 02:13 PM
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Credits: 619,625 Year: DNG NFL: Cowboys NBA: Suns MLB: Royals | Re: Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk Series to be renewed Originally Posted by ISUFan22 So just because you don't care about them, does that make them insignificant?
It would be completely unfair and a slap-in-the-face of those student athletes to not include those ISU vs Iowa match-ups. Just because they are lightly attended does not automatically render them useless in this series. quit being rational.
-keep.
| The Jack Trice Story ESPN & Wiki "My thoughts just before the first real college game of my life: The honor of my race, family and self are at stake," Trice wrote. "Everyone is expecting me to do big things. I will!" "I really don't even remember exactly what happened," Klink after losing 15-13 at JackTriceStadium "a great enviroment for college football. Just like going into OSU or UM."Greenway after losing 23-3 a JackTriceStadium |
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04-09-2008, 02:18 PM
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Credits: 1,736,373 NFL: Cowboys | Re: Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk Series to be renewed Originally Posted by keepngoal quit being rational. Iowa is the best program ever, clean as a whistle. Drew Tate for Heisman!
Is that better?
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04-09-2008, 02:19 PM
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| | Smell the gloves
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Credits: 4,377,423 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Re: Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk Series to be renewed Originally Posted by ISUFan22 Iowa is the best program ever, clean as a whistle. Drew Tate for Heisman!
Is that better?
That is called being DELUSIONAL.
DELUSIONAL = EIU FAN
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04-09-2008, 02:20 PM
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Credits: 403,602 NFL: Lions NBA: Bobcats MLB: Pirates | Re: Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk Series to be renewed Originally Posted by ISUFan22 So just because you don't care about them, does that make them insignificant?
It would be completely unfair and a slap-in-the-face of those student athletes to not include those ISU vs Iowa match-ups. Just because they are lightly attended does not automatically render them useless in this series.
I didn't say they're insignificant. I said I don't think that sports nobody cares to pay attention to should count towards this trophy. I think more people would care about the Cy-Hawk series if it included the sports that people care to watch.
I don't believe I'm the only one who feels this way.
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04-09-2008, 02:21 PM
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I think this will just keep changing hands with the home team winning all the time.
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04-09-2008, 02:22 PM
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Credits: 4,377,423 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Re: Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk Series to be renewed Originally Posted by SouthernHawk I didn't say they're insignificant. I said I don't think that sports nobody cares to pay attention to should count towards this trophy. I think more people would care about the Cy-Hawk series if it included the sports that people care to watch.
I don't believe I'm the only one who feels this way. I don't think the games that we lose should be counted against our record......
It is a sport that the two schools complete with each other in, it is included. Seems pretty simple to me.
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04-09-2008, 02:23 PM
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Credits: 1,736,373 NFL: Cowboys | Re: Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk Series to be renewed Originally Posted by SouthernHawk I didn't say they're insignificant. I said I don't think that sports nobody cares to pay attention to should count towards this trophy. Ummmm....which would render them insignificant in this series.
You dance around words without actually saying them more than anyone else I know.
The Cy-Hawk series should be all events or not at all. If someone wanted to sponsor a Big 3 series (or include WBB for Big 4, etc) - fine by me. But this is the Cy-Hawk series, not the "Cy-Hawk series except the sports no one goes to".
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04-09-2008, 02:28 PM
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The events could be weighted with the formula (attendance)X(points assigned for an event win), but then no one would ever get anything for winning in Carver Hawkeye, as anything times zero is zero.
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04-09-2008, 02:30 PM
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| | Sonny... hand me my cane
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Credits: 1,872,663 | Re: Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk Series to be renewed Originally Posted by ISUFan22 Ummmm....which would render them insignificant in this series.
You dance around words without actually saying them more than anyone else I know.
The Cy-Hawk series should be all events or not at all. If someone wanted to sponsor a Big 3 series (or include WBB for Big 4, etc) - fine by me. But this is the Cy-Hawk series, not the "Cy-Hawk series except the sports no one goes to".    | | |
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04-09-2008, 02:30 PM
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Credits: 403,602 NFL: Lions NBA: Bobcats MLB: Pirates | Re: Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk Series to be renewed Originally Posted by ISUFan22 Ummmm....which would render them insignificant in this series.
You dance around words without actually saying them more than anyone else I know.
The Cy-Hawk series should be all events or not at all. If someone wanted to sponsor a Big 3 series (or include WBB for Big 4, etc) - fine by me. But this is the Cy-Hawk series, not the "Cy-Hawk series except the sports no one goes to". How am I dancing around words here? It's my opinion that I don't think the lesser-known sports should count in the series. You don't have to agree, that's fine.
But my opinion is pretty simple. I don't think the series needs to include every sport.
That's all.
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04-09-2008, 02:31 PM
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You're dancing around the word "insignificant"...I thought I made that clear.
Ok...if Sport A is not attended enough to be included in Series A - does that not render Sport A insignificant in the eyes of Series A?
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04-09-2008, 02:39 PM
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| | kreepy
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I understand about having an opinion (see non-smoking threads... *sigh), but when you say "NOBODY cares to pay attention" you are trying to mix fact and opinion... where the fact is false. Originally Posted by SouthernHawk I didn't say they're insignificant. I said I don't think that sports nobody cares to pay attention to should count towards this trophy. I think more people would care about the Cy-Hawk series if it included the sports that people care to watch.
I don't believe I'm the only one who feels this way. | The Jack Trice Story ESPN & Wiki "My thoughts just before the first real college game of my life: The honor of my race, family and self are at stake," Trice wrote. "Everyone is expecting me to do big things. I will!" "I really don't even remember exactly what happened," Klink after losing 15-13 at JackTriceStadium "a great enviroment for college football. Just like going into OSU or UM."Greenway after losing 23-3 a JackTriceStadium |
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04-09-2008, 02:39 PM
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Credits: 403,602 NFL: Lions NBA: Bobcats MLB: Pirates | Re: Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk Series to be renewed Originally Posted by ISUFan22 You're dancing around the word "insignificant"...I thought I made that clear.
Ok...if Sport A is not attended enough to be included in Series A - does that not render Sport A insignificant in the eyes of Series A?
If I meant that I thought a sport was insignificant, I'd say it. As a former swimmer and soccer player, I'm well aware of how little peope care to watch those sports. I did them and competed in them because it was something I loved to do.
And, to answer your question, if Sport A is not attended enough, that means the fans don't pay enough attention for Sport A to be included in Series A.
Let's include the ice hockey games, as well as the club baseball games as well. I mean, there's student athletes participating in those, and just because they're "club" status shouldn't mean they are neglected by the all-important Cy-Hawk series. I mean, we wouldn't want them to feel like they are insignificant.
It just seems silly to me to have a trophy given to the school with the most wins in sports that people otherwise don't pay attention to. Right now, if a school wins three out of the four "Big revenue sports", but lose all of the "no revenue sports", they'll still lose out on the series.
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04-09-2008, 02:41 PM
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04-09-2008, 02:45 PM
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No.... I was saying this last year too after Iowa won it.
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