EIU Raising Their Average (The Apple Debate)

cycloneryan · 04-25-2008, 12:22 PM

15 in 12 months is pretty impressive. What has ISU had in the past 12 months, 1?

isucyfan · 04-25-2008, 12:23 PM

Hmmm...15 arrests/run-ins with the law in 12 months.

15-12 Some other not-so-great numbers in IU's recent past.

kgreeny · 04-25-2008, 12:28 PM

I'm starting to feel sorry for KF. He doesn't deserve this crap. If I were in his place, I think I would have to go drastic and kick a guy off the team. Right in front of the rest of 'em. Have to show the team your not messing around anymore.

SouthernHawk · 04-25-2008, 12:28 PM

PAULA does not = arrest.

Just saying.

CycloneErik · 04-25-2008, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

PAULA does not = arrest.

Just saying.

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Maybe you meant a person named Paula?

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kgreeny · 04-25-2008, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

PAULA does not = arrest.

Just saying.

I wasn't saying it does. And this kid didn't do much at all. I just think KF needs to boot someone for the show of it.

ISU4ME · 04-25-2008, 12:30 PM

So part of the logic for the amount of arrests for the football team is the Iowa City police department is tougher on PAULAS than the Ames PD.

So why do we never hear about a women's basketball player, golf team, field hockey, gymnastics, softball or any other women's sport being arrested? After all, the iowa city PD is really tough on players. Either the female players do not drink or do drink but are damn lucky to not get caught?

Or, Kirky boy is having trouble maintaing his boys from drinking underage and getting caught. I guess if your teammates have been arrested/accused of credit card fraud and rape, what is the big deal about a PAULA?

isucyfan · 04-25-2008, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

PAULA does not = arrest.

Just saying.

Good point. I have to stop assuming that whenever I see a Hawk's name in the paper, it's for an arrest. Not sure what would have led me to those assumptions.

You've heard the old saying, "15 bad apples spoil the lot."

SouthernHawk · 04-25-2008, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by isucyfan

Good point. I have to stop assuming that whenever I see a Hawk's name in the paper, it's for an arrest. Not sure what would have led me to those assumptions.

You've heard the old saying, "15 bad apples spoil the lot."

Actually, I found an article for this. It's about Enron, and bad apples. I dunno, I was just trying to find something about bad apples not actually spoiling the entire lot, but I found this. Does one bad apple spoil the entire bunch? (by Tom Mitsoff) - Media Monitors Network

And for what it's worth, bad apples only ruin apple sauce. Or pies. Not all of the other apples.

rd4isu · 04-25-2008, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by kgreeny

I'm starting to feel sorry for KF. He doesn't deserve this crap. If I were in his place, I think I would have to go drastic and kick a guy off the team. Right in front of the rest of 'em. Have to show the team your not messing around anymore.

I'm not sure about kicking the guy off the team but apparently the message still isn't getting through to some of them. This alone isn't a big deal but coupled with recent run ins it's yet another bad light shone on the football team. Where are the seniors/leaders on the team to smash some of these idiots over the head?

isucyfan · 04-25-2008, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

Actually, I found an article for this. It's about Enron, and bad apples. I dunno, I was just trying to find something about bad apples not actually spoiling the entire lot, but I found this. Does one bad apple spoil the entire bunch? (by Tom Mitsoff) - Media Monitors Network

And for what it's worth, bad apples only ruin apple sauce. Or pies. Not all of the other apples.

I see your poor example for this situation and raise you one that is more pertinent:

uweek.org | Rotten to the core: How workplace 'bad apples' spoil barrels of good employees | University Week, Vol. 24, No. 17 | University of Washington

Splendid · 04-25-2008, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Indyclone

Burns, please stop posting or at least think before you post. In case you forgot we did lose to 2 MAC teams ourselves last year and a I-AA.

If you are going to talk smack at least make sure we didn't accomplish the same thing by not being able to beat bad football teams.

Wow, Monty provides the humor and one of our own calls him out for it. Keep posting Monty, most of us love it!

Indyclone · 04-25-2008, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Splendid

Wow, Monty provides the humor and one of our own calls him out for it. Keep posting Monty, most of us love it!

Yeah it is real humorous giving a fan of a rival crap about losing to a MAC school when we got beat by 2.

But carry on and make yourselves look like idiots if you want.

jmb · 04-25-2008, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

Actually, I found an article for this. It's about Enron, and bad apples. I dunno, I was just trying to find something about bad apples not actually spoiling the entire lot, but I found this. Does one bad apple spoil the entire bunch? (by Tom Mitsoff) - Media Monitors Network

And for what it's worth, bad apples only ruin apple sauce. Or pies. Not all of the other apples.

This is an outstanding article! I agree 100% and the only logical conclusion that you can come to is that the bad apple(University of Iowa football) isn't going to ruin the reputation of programs like Michigan, Illinois, Iowa State, Oklahoma, USC etc.-not all football programs are full of thieves, sexual predators, and uncontrolled alcholics.

jmb

wantapet · 04-25-2008, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

And for what it's worth, bad apples only ruin apple sauce. Or pies. Not all of the other apples.

Well if you want to get that technical, apples hanging from the tree are working alone as an individual unit, apples in apple sauce or pies are meshed together, working as one unit...kind of like a team concept