Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal

CloneFan03 · 06-19-2008, 09:23 PM

They said that KXNO and WHO are "Hawkeye" stations, and didn't want to break the bad news. I understand why they aren't saying anything though since they only have one source. But why bring it up?

They talked for about 20 minutes about the situation and how some really bad stuff could go down in IC if the girl decided to testify in court but if she doesn't then nothing will happen. I'd definately like to know more...

ketelmeister · 06-19-2008, 09:33 PM

Like I've said, now that this has started, the truth will come out/ We don't know all the facts and won't for sometime in my view. I'm waiting to see what happens.

MontyBurns · 06-19-2008, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by CloneFan03

They said that KXNO and WHO are "Hawkeye" stations, and didn't want to break the bad news.

I don't think it has anything to do with them being "Hawkeye" stations. I think it has to do with good journalism. After all, if WHO or KXNO breaks a news story that is damaging to people or an institution, and that story turns out to be false, the stations would be liable for any damange that they did. Since Marty's & Miller's journalistic "sources" consist spending hours a day surfing anonymous internet message boards for news, it's no surprise that station management doesn't want them breaking any "news". Allowing them to act as reporters would be irresponsible management.

ketelmeister · 06-19-2008, 09:39 PM

I have a tough time believe Jon Miller would make a statement that he knows something, but he's not telling. Would Jon comment?

cloneaholic · 06-19-2008, 09:43 PM

It was Ken Miller who made the comment, not John Miller.

twojman · 06-19-2008, 09:47 PM

With all the connections Jon Miller has, my guess is that he knows something, a lot of something, and will have to sit on it while someone else breaks it.

travman23 · 06-19-2008, 10:27 PM

Look, I don't blame them for not breaking something if they are not 100% sure on it. Considering the seriousness of this the last thing that needs to be done is for someone to turn hearsay into big time news without having anything solid to back it up. If there is smoke to their sources eventually there will be fire and it will come out. Until then I think you all are getting a little carried away with this. If this was ISU you'd all probably say they don't know squat and are just saying that to stir the pot and make things look worse. Don't deny it, you KNOW that would be the big topic here if the tables were turned and you'd be praying they'd shut up and not talk about it.

We already know how reliable of sources they have, Marty got burned big time by his dentist with the ISU FB hiring and he still is not living that one down so I don't blame them for holding back on this until it can be confirmed with some solid evidence and multiple sources. If you break this story they have now and find out that it was not true, considering the seriousness of this they would take a HUGE reputation hit for it.

MontyBurns · 06-19-2008, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by travman23

We already know how reliable of sources they have, Marty got burned big time by his dentist with the ISU FB hiring and he still is not living that one down so I don't blame them for holding back on this until it can be confirmed with some solid evidence and multiple sources. If you break this story they have now and find out that it was not true, considering the seriousness of this they would take a HUGE reputation hit for it.

LOL good point. Except I think the station's management is worried about the station's reputation, not Marty's and Miller's. As your examples show, their reputation is already made -- they are internet message board rumor readers/spreaders/posters/moderators....not reporters.

kingcy · 06-19-2008, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Wesley

Maybe they found something on MyFace.

I had to stay in Omaha a few days last week and there was a murder. An Omaha news station used the that got killed facebook page for info in the story. They got points off it like the gang he was in and what he said about another gang. I thought it was odd and lazy they would use that for info.

AIT · 06-19-2008, 10:39 PM

Marty and Miller are entertainers, not journalists. If either of them claim to have inside information on anything, I'm betting either they made it up, or their source made it up. This is probably a (despicable) ratings ploy, the equivalent of an "I know something you don't know" post.

balken · 06-19-2008, 10:42 PM

If you replaced "can't touch Hawkeye scandal" from the thread title and replaced it with "suck", it would be more to the point.

ketelmeister · 06-19-2008, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by AIT

Marty and Miller are entertainers, not journalists. If either of them claim to have inside information on anything, I'm betting either they made it up, or their source made it up. This is probably a (despicable) ratings ploy, the equivalent of an "I know something you don't know" post.

I agree that it doesn't make sense to reply to hearsay like that. If they have something report it. But to say we know something you don't know be we aren't telling is irresponsible. I doubt they have anything new. In this case, I'm for facts, not that kind of stuff.

ISUAlum2002 · 06-19-2008, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by rworkman83

There was some stuff posted the other day that I believe has been removed now.

Here's a thread from Hawkeye Nation that has some info that some of you may be looking for...

Scout.com: Iowa Forums List

They just deleted a 6 page thread about it as I was reading through it. No one was really rumor-mongering in that thread, it appeared to be a fairly civilized conversation without any namecalling or other nonsense. Those guys over at HN must just be hoping that if they keep sweeping it under the rug long enough that it'll go away.

Cyclone90 · 06-20-2008, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

I don't think it has anything to do with them being "Hawkeye" stations. I think it has to do with good journalism. After all, if WHO or KXNO breaks a news story that is damaging to people or an institution, and that story turns out to be false, the stations would be liable for any damange that they did. Since Marty's & Miller's journalistic "sources" consist spending hours a day surfing anonymous internet message boards for news, it's no surprise that station management doesn't want them breaking any "news". Allowing them to act as reporters would be irresponsible management.

It may not be the primary motivation, but I highly doubt that it doesn't have "anything" to do with it. WHO, who has the same management as KXNO, is the flagship 50,000 watt station of Iowa Hawkeye football. If you think they want to be the source of a breaking story dragging the Black and Gold through the muck you're sadly mistaken. They've let M&M spout off about all the other rumors with no problems and worries about journalism. Many in the Hawkeye fan base have had it up to here with the football program's problems and they don't want to be involved in fueling the fire, torquing off the university, or getting to the point where advertisers start pulling the plug. It is in no way Clear Channel's best interest to break this story.

BryceC · 06-20-2008, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by travman23

They said they only had 1 source which is not enough to go out on a limb right now. If they had 3 that could confirm it then maybe they break it.

QFT.

Need to have more than one source.