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06-20-2008, 06:58 AM
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Credits: 309,649 | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal Originally Posted by Cyclone90 It may not be the primary motivation, but I highly doubt that it doesn't have "anything" to do with it. WHO, who has the same management as KXNO, is the flagship 50,000 watt station of Iowa Hawkeye football. If you think they want to be the source of a breaking story dragging the Black and Gold through the muck you're sadly mistaken. They've let M&M spout off about all the other rumors with no problems and worries about journalism. Many in the Hawkeye fan base have had it up to here with the football program's problems and they don't want to be involved in fueling the fire, torquing off the university, or getting to the point where advertisers start pulling the plug. It is in no way Clear Channel's best interest to break this story.
Clone90 hit the nail on the head. I'm not so concerned about the fact that Miller is reluctant to reveal information from a single source on how the university has dragged its feet in responding to the victim's assault - I'm confident that information will surface in the future.
What concerns me is that the management of KXNO and WHO (the sister station of KXNO and "Iowa's News Station") has told Marty & Miller to back off because they do not want to break this story.
The management of these stations has no interest in breaking the story???? Is that responsible journalism? How can the Univesity of Iowa be held accountable when "Iowa's News Station" has told its staff to back off on investigating them? To the contrary, it's the RESPONSIBILITY of Iowa's News Station to investigate this mess.
I can't believe the hypocracy. The news station doesn't want to investigate an incident involving corruption within a university because it could adversely impact the news station financially.
It's no wonder so many people lose faith in their government.
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06-20-2008, 07:09 AM
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#32 (permalink)
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Credits: 95,730 | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal
You know that if this was ISU the would run with whatever little piece of information they have eventhough Clear Channel is also the home of ISU sports on the Bus and KXNO. Both programs are tied to the same radio stations and they would love nothing more than to break an ISU story.
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06-20-2008, 07:24 AM
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Credits: 1,244 | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal
Maybe mangement doesn't want them commenting UNTIL they have verifiable sources. I guess if I were management I probably wouldn't either. I didn't hear M&M that day so don't know the specifics of their comments.
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06-20-2008, 07:29 AM
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Credits: 275,050 Year: 1995 Degree: B.A.; M.Div. MLB: Cubs | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal Originally Posted by Cydkar Maybe mangement doesn't want them commenting UNTIL they have verifiable sources. I guess if I were management I probably wouldn't either. I didn't hear M&M that day so don't know the specifics of their comments.
I would rather err on the side of caution. With a sensitive topic like this one, they could really push things in a bad direction if they just fire off with what turns out to be rumors.
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06-20-2008, 07:30 AM
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#35 (permalink)
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Credits: 95,730 | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal
They specifically siad that the station will not break the story but wait for another organization to due and will then run with it at that time.
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06-20-2008, 07:41 AM
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Credits: 203,811 | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal Originally Posted by bootcy They specifically siad that the station will not break the story but wait for another organization to due and will then run with it at that time. Then they can claim they had this info the whole time and were ahead of the ball before everyone else, but couldn't say anything. Lame.
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06-20-2008, 07:53 AM
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Credits: 1,093,016 Year: 2004 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal
Honestly, I would expect ISU to get dragged through the mud if the shoe were on the other foot. I would want an investigation into what happened because if any one did something wrong, I would want them gone from ISU athletics.
Sounds like Iowa fans/message board owners/radio station managers/etc do not want that. And that is sad. God forbid we get to the bottom of the story in a case like this.
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06-20-2008, 08:07 AM
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Credits: 2,238 | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal
Look at it this way - if Ken Miller knows anything, you can bet Witosky and others do. It will come out. Originally Posted by rworkman83 Thread is now deleted...
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06-20-2008, 08:14 AM
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#39 (permalink)
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Credits: 281,826 | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002 They just deleted a 6 page thread about it as I was reading through it. No one was really rumor-mongering in that thread, it appeared to be a fairly civilized conversation without any namecalling or other nonsense. Those guys over at HN must just be hoping that if they keep sweeping it under the rug long enough that it'll go away.
Wow. That should say a lot about the integrity and credibility of the people/person who runs that site.
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06-20-2008, 08:18 AM
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Credits: 94,148 Year: 1991 Degree: Ag Business/Marketing NFL: Vikings | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal Originally Posted by iowast8fan Then they can claim they had this info the whole time and were ahead of the ball before everyone else, but couldn't say anything. Lame. What do you expect out the the voice of thug Pukeye sports that also hire drunk scumbag shills like zipperhead Zable. You get past that and there is no hope for logical thinking, let alone objectivity in their sports stories anyway.....
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06-20-2008, 08:20 AM
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Credits: 309,649 | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal
As bootcy indicated, Marty and Miller reported that their management specifically said they will NOT break this story (regardless of whether they have verifiable information). That violates the very basic principle of journalism - objectivity. Next time WHO radio does a story involving corruption, they should look in the mirror.
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06-20-2008, 08:22 AM
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Credits: 312,329 Year: 2000 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal Originally Posted by CyGuy33 Why if you were a journalist and you had a story like this would you not break it? p-a-y-c-h-e-c-k
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06-20-2008, 08:26 AM
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Credits: 299,967 | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal
This sounds like some ridiculous radio stunt from the 80s. DJ claims he is at a crossroads with management, and has locked himself into the booth playing only Tony Basil's Mickey until they agree to some undefined terms. The listeners rally around the hilarious on-air personality against the mean-spirited station management.
Here, M&M claim they are fighting the 'oppressive' management. They have valuable inside information which they can't reveal because the station won't let them. They expect the listener to realize how insightful and connected they are and rally around them. If only the station wouldn't censor their expert knowledge.
Of course neither the DJ nor M&M have any real issue with the station, rather they need something to get the listeners interested. M&M may very well have some piece of unconfirmed information, but they know they can't bring it up. Instead they choose to use it as a ruse for their own benefit.
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06-20-2008, 08:35 AM
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#44 (permalink)
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Credits: 420,983 NFL: Chiefs NBA: Bulls MLB: Cubs | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal
Wow, this is STILL going on? Look, as far as I'm concerned there is nothing to report right now so it does no good to play the blame game and say who is wrong and right for not coming out with any tidbit of info they might have. If it were me and I was not 100% confident that my source was acurate in a story like this I wouldn't report it either. They probably shouldn't have even mentioned that they heard something but this is talk radio and they got you all stired up and wanting to find out so that means you all will probably be listening to their show in hopes that they do break something. We had this same kind of topic not long ago when people were starting several threads about Jon Miller, if you don't like it don't listen otherwise you are supporting their cause and helping their ratings which is what their job is to keep you all talking about the content of their show!
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06-20-2008, 08:37 AM
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Credits: 1,093,016 Year: 2004 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Re: Marty and Miller admit they can't touch Hawkeye scandal Originally Posted by travman23 Wow, this is STILL going on? Look, as far as I'm concerned there is nothing to report right now so it does no good to play the blame game and say who is wrong and right for not coming out with any tidbit of info they might have. If it were me and I was not 100% confident that my source was acurate in a story like this I wouldn't report it either. They probably shouldn't have even mentioned that they heard something but this is talk radio and they got you all stired up and wanting to find out so that means you all will probably be listening to their show in hopes that they do break something. We had this same kind of topic not long ago when people were starting several threads about Jon Miller, if you don't like it don't listen otherwise you are supporting their cause and helping their ratings which is what their job is to keep you all talking about the content of their show! It's pretty low if they are using a story about a girl who got raped to boost their ratings. Then again, I wouldn't put it past them.
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