This seems idiotic to me. Who in Oakland is going to go to a raiders game, other than to throw **** at the players, and cheer the opposing teams. Go play at UNLV, it is a 35k venue. No worse than the Chargers playing in a 30k venue.
NFL: Raiders to Las Vegas
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This seems idiotic to me. Who in Oakland is going to go to a raiders game, other than to throw **** at the players, and cheer the opposing teams. Go play at UNLV, it is a 35k venue. No worse than the Chargers playing in a 30k venue.
See how the changer fans reacted why would it be any different for raiders fans?
If you're a fan of the Raiders because you live in Oakland/have a connection to Oakland, then it probably won't be a much different. But (and I have no data backing this up), I feel like the Raiders are a bigger brand nationally/you're more likely to just be a raider's fan nationally.Those people would be less likely to switch since they never had a connection to Oakland anyway, so why would it matter if they moved
Two completely different fan bases. Does anybody give two ***** about the Chargers outside of San Diego?
So I-15 is going to become a real life "Mad Max" for at least 8 weekends of the year. I guess why not - their fans already dress the part.
You have to think, though, the Raiders organization is pissed with themselves for allowing the Chargers to beat them (back) to LA.
If the Raiders end up moving to Vegas, half the stadium each game will be the other team's fans.
Every fanbase is going to make a weekend trip out of it. I'm in when the Bears visit.
It looks like the Raiders have lost their primary investor in Vegas.
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/oakla...stor-pulls-out-of-stadium-deal-024020351.html
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/oakla...stor-pulls-out-of-stadium-deal-024020351.html
Goldman Sachs to the rescue? The deal does sound a little outrageous, basically allowing to Raiders the profit from a lot of ongoing revenue while cutting out the other 2/3 of the money that made it happen. Just another raw deal for the average joe, but I am sure the residents don't care that much. The burden appears to be entirely passed on to the tourists.
The comment section seems to be filled with people who don't even want the team there if the municipality is paying for it, and I don't blame them. I don't blame Adelson for backing out either.
The biggest Raiders fan I know would be torn but likely still a Raiders fan. He would be upset because he is originally from Northern CA but he would like the move because he is now in Phoenix and getting to games would be so much easier. He never stopped being a Raiders fan when they moved to LA so why would he now?
It looks like Goldman Sachs is backing away from this as well. Apparently Mark Davis thinks everyone should invest in his stadium and he should get 100% of the money. Investment banks and billionaire businessmen don't generally operate that way.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...Raiders-Las-Vegas-Stadium-Deal-412303063.html
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...Raiders-Las-Vegas-Stadium-Deal-412303063.html
It looks like this is going forward with a real possibility of it happening. I guess Bank of America decided to kick in the money.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report...-for-vegas-move-becoming-clear-125651722.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report...-for-vegas-move-becoming-clear-125651722.html
Officially headed to Vegas. While I don't have a rooting interest for any of the relocated teams, this just reaffirms my growing dislike for the NFL. What a disservice to the fan bases of these teams. I think the NFL is playing a dangerous game with their fans. The diehards will keep watching, but between this and the CTE studies I'm become pretty jaded towards this league, and I doubt I'm the only one.
It definitely sucks for the fans. However, Oakland's stadium is completely outdated. It's hard to expect them to compete against the newest stadiums out there for revenue generation.
And we know it sucks to make tax payers foot the bill, but that's the current model that pretty much everyone is following for getting a new stadium and any chance for a new team.
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depends on how you measure it. From a financial standpoint, it's almost certainly not a bad move. They're going to make more money in Vegas. With a giant new stadium and lots of wealthy companies in the area to buy up those PSLs and luxury boxes? They'll crush it financially compared to Oakland before a single game is played.
From an optics perspective, though? Yeah, it's a bad move.
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This. I don't like it. I hate that teams move like this. But, it's hard to expect them not to do whatever they can to maximize their profits. And this, pretty clearly, is the reasoning for the move.
I hope more and more communities stand up to the NFL the way the San Diego did, and refuse to use public funds to pay for stadiums. But, Las Vegas is offering public money, it's not shocking at all to see why a team would follow the money.
