THE OTHER RECRUITING METHOD

[TheJackWePack5]

Ten wins. Top 20. Run at conference championship. All-conference honorable mention.

They have the potential to get back to 9 wins this year. How many Seniors will start this year?

Don't think KSU has the athletes to compete with OU or OSU this year. Not to mention Texas and TCU should be better than they have been and certainly have the athletes.

If Snyders health is a legitimate issue (i hope its not), we will likely see KSU drop off a little bit.

 

[surly]

They have the potential to get back to 9 wins this year. How many Seniors will start this year? O'line 1; receivers 0; backfield 0; D'line 2; linebackers 2; d'backs 1.

Don't think KSU has the athletes to compete with OU or OSU this year. Not to mention Texas and TCU should be better than they have been and certainly have the athletes. OU and oSu are favorites, agree.

If Snyders health is a legitimate issue (i hope its not), we will likely see KSU drop off a little bit.Cancer is a legitimate issue.

 

[CloneIce]

Snyder is the best coach in college football. We need to follow a similar blueprint to be successful here, particularly his attention to details. Really hoping Campbell can be that guy for us.

 

[heitclone]

"Jessie" Ertz completed 57% of his passes last year and was 9-4 TD to INT ratio. Ran for 12 TDs

Lanning completed 58% of his passes last year and was 9-3 TD to INT ratio. Ran for 11 TDs

Should be noted that Lanning split time the entire season with Park, had 100 less passing attempts and 60 fewer rushes. Imagine what he'd do playing an entire season under Snyder. The only QB's Ertz should be compared to are former Snyder QB's, in that regard, he's pretty average. It's a different system but K State qb's are no different than Texas Tech's, they are all system guys who are going to get their numbers.

 

[bos]

His real name is Tom Marvolo Riddle.

Wait...a sec...ond...

 

[Sigmapolis]

Why can't we just get along with our Purple Kitty brethren?

 

[inCyteful]

"Jessie" Ertz completed 57% of his passes last year and was 9-4 TD to INT ratio. Ran for 12 TDs

Lanning completed 58% of his passes last year and was 9-3 TD to INT ratio. Ran for 11 TDs

This, the talent Snyder has, that Hayden had and that Ferentz has hung on to is getting and developing line talent. That is nearly all of the difference between ISU football and KSU football.

Don't forget that Lanning wasn't starting at end of the year either.

 

[inCyteful]

Why can't we just get along with our Purple Kitty brethren?

I don't mind them, they are fairly harmless.

 

[dualthreat]

Forget j Ertz.. Snyder turned Colin Klein from a slow receiver into a Heisman finalist QB on a team that won the big 12. And the guy could barely throw an accurate football.

 

[CYCLNST8]

Why can't we just get along with our Purple Kitty brethren?

Because we keep finding RIDICULOUSLY STUPID WAYS TO LOSE TO THEM.

 

[surly]

Because we keep finding RIDICULOUSLY STUPID WAYS TO LOSE TO THEM.

Once does not make a trend.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

Once does not make a trend.

Meh. I'd say it's not far fetched to say that ISU and KSU are very similar in talent from year to year, but KSU has coached in circles around ISU and usually wins the battle up front.

 

[CYCLNST8]

Once does not make a trend.

With the exception of 2013, I'd say we've blown plenty of good chances.

 

[CloneIce]

Once does not make a trend.

Scoring a last minute TD, only to have our extra point blocked was pretty bad too. Or the year before, when Arnaud had ARob streaking to the end zone wide open to take the lead and overthrew him.

 

[surly]

Meh. I'd say it's not far fetched to say that ISU and KSU are very similar in talent from year to year, but KSU has coached in circles around ISU and usually wins the battle up front.

Not sure how you would measure the talent differential, but I don't recall many Jordy Nelson, Darren Sproles, Terence Newman, Tyler Lockett, Cody Whitehair, Arthur Brown types playing at Ames over the years. And football is won in the trenches on both sides of the ball. We all know that. So, to suggest K-State has had an advantage there seems illogical to the parity argument.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

Not sure how you would measure the talent differential, but I don't recall many Jordy Nelson, Darren Sproles, Tyler Lockett types playing at Ames over the years. And football is won in the trenches on both sides of the ball. We all know that. So, to suggest K-State has had an advantage there seems illogical to the parity argument.

Kansas St for the last 7-8 years hasn't been much more talented than ISU. If you can't realize that by watching them play each other, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[norcalcy]

No problem here with KSU. Their success and relevance is one of the few things that give me hope as a Cyclone football fan. A Plan, well thought out recruiting strategy, high football IQ, attention to detail, staff stability.... they all add up to success. They did it, we can do it.

 

[surly]

Kansas St for the last 7-8 years hasn't been much more talented than ISU. If you can't realize that by watching them play each other, then I don't know what to tell you.

I guess it's best left to the scoreboard.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

I guess it's best left to the scoreboard.

I'm not claiming that KSU isn't more talented, but I don't think the gap is huge.

 

[surly]

I'm not claiming that KSU isn't more talented, but I don't think the gap is huge.

The scoreboard proves your point. That's why it's best left there rather than all the subjective commentaries.